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[Highjagger]

It is not possible to fasten the right-side-muffler-clamp so that it won`t get loosely again .
After a ride i check again and the clamp is still complete closed upto end , but the muffler is not fixed , i can easily wobble it at the rear .
 The 2 mounting screws below the saddlebag are still fastened .
 The problem is that the piece metal between the clamp is too big , so that i can`t close the clamp enough .
Now i think about : maybe this should be so , that the muffler should be possible to move a little bit ??
Did you ever recognized this at your muffler clamp ?
 Or is your muffler clamp really able to fix the muffler that it does not get loosely again ?
Someone wrote here that his muffler fell down while riding ?

[Phoenixbiker]

Hijagger,

I had the same problem.

By design most good shops fit mufflers tight and apply muffler putty in the joint to: keep the joint tight eliminating noise, eliminating movement causing irrepairable wear and discoloration (and hopefully the fall off problem), eliminating blowby of gasses to mark the chrome or other nearby paint.

I removed the metal spacer, ground it down somewhat and refitted the muffler tight with muffler putty in the joint.

[grc]

Highjagger, if all the parts are made properly, the clamp should provide a solid joint that doesn't wobble or leak.  Perhaps H-D has gotten a batch of defective clamps.  BTW, these clamps are only supposed to be used one time.  If you've removed them for any reason, you will get much better results if you replace them rather than try to pry the spacer section loose and then reinstall.

Another point concerns the actual pipes.  If the head pipe has been slightly crushed by the previous clamp, get a pipe expander tool to open the pipe back up completely and make sure it's round and a snug fit into the muffler opening.

Jerry

BTW, the TORCA Accu-Seal clamps should be tightened to 61-81 Nm.

[dartman]

It is not possible to fasten the right-side-muffler-clamp so that it won`t get loosely again .
After a ride i check again and the clamp is still complete closed upto end , but the muffler is not fixed , i can easily wobble it at the rear .
 The 2 mounting screws below the saddlebag are still fastened .
 The problem is that the piece metal between the clamp is too big , so that i can`t close the clamp enough .
Now i think about : maybe this should be so , that the muffler should be possible to move a little bit ??
Did you ever recognized this at your muffler clamp ?
 Or is your muffler clamp really able to fix the muffler that it does not get loosely again ?
Someone wrote here that his muffler fell down while riding ?

HJ,  Harley muffler Clamps stretch, especially if you over torque them, You can either replace the clamp (expensive) or shim the clamp  I have a roll of 20 Thousandths brass Shim stock, I circle the inside of the clamp, trim to fit and snug the clamp down, your mufflers will move slightly inside the rear mounting grommets but you should get no movement at the clamp.

[DW6019]

Take the offending clamp and the muffler and go to the closest muffler shop (Midas or whatever) They will in about 30 seconds resize the end of your pipe to the clamp (or the pipe it slides onto if you prefer). I had this done recently on a set of Reinharts that would not tighten up without bending the clamps, Midas guy charged $5.00 and put it in his pocket. Everything fit perfectly, no leaks - tight. Also dropped a S/E Pro Muffler once and bent the end, had it resized the same way, also $5.00, and you couldn't tell it was ever damaged.

[Highwaystar]

Order a stainless race T clamp from Jeg's or any HP automotive source...no more problem. http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/JEGS-T-Bolt-Hose-Clamps/744065/10002/-1

[DW6019]

If the pipe is off much the clamps you listed above will strip before they will resize the end of the female pipe to the male one. Good idea, I have tried it, but had little success. Much better to get the pipe resized correctly so the clamp can secure the connection vs having the clamp try to resize the pipe which it was never intended to do.

[Highwaystar]

This is a clamp issue and probably not a pipe problem. I am a drag racer and have not seen a stripping problem with T clamps. The stock muffler clamp has been over tightened and is too large to effectively clamp the muffler to the pipe. Buy a new stock clamp or purchase a $5 T clamp. they will not loosen up and will torque much tighter than the stock clamp.

[Highjagger]

Ok , I got it , a new clamp is needed . 
Are the Harley clamps all the same size or could someone give me the correct name with size for this clamp ?

[dartman]

Ok , I got it , a new clamp is needed . 
Are the Harley clamps all the same size or could someone give me the correct name with size for this clamp ?

Muffler Clamps P/N 65296-95A (Qty. 2).

[grc]

The T-bolt clamps are what come with the V&H dresser duals, and all I can say is I'm not impressed.  Those things are really meant to be used as hose clamps, as in rubber hoses, and have a narrower band than the TORCA muffler clamps.  Yes, you can "crank 'em down" tighter since they don't have a built in stop like the TORCA, but you shouldn't need to do that if you just use a pipe expander on the head pipe first.  I also don't like the fact that the actual bolt sticks out so far, making it easy to snag stuff.

Jerry

[Highjagger]

I`ve bought this one from http://www.polo-motorrad.de/shop/Technik-Umbau-Styling-Auspuff--zubehoer-Stahlschelle-47-51-mm/dmc_mb3_search_pi1.page/1/dmc_mb3_search_pi1.searchstring/auspuff+klemmen/group/7331/product/156676/L/0/Produktdetail.productdetails.0.html and i think it is working upto my next visit at the dealer and i will tell him , I just have to ride whether th e clamp still will be closed afterwards and the muffler won`t come loosely again .
4,95 Euro for one is ok .