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Chopped tour pack installation problem
« on: November 25, 2005, 11:40:51 PM »

I got a chopped tour pack off of Ebay, granted its from the 2000 Screamin Eagle Road Glide, it has the male plugin for the electric and led spoiler light. I cant see a plug in female socket on the bike in the vicinity of where the wires lead. Where is this plug? The harness has got to be the same. Does anyone have any suggestions? Has anyone installed their own tour pack? I dont want to have to hack into these wire. Please help.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 12:10:58 AM »

CVOwner, see if the following photo helps.  These are from a prior post of mine showing the routing of the wiring on my LED/spoiler.  The connector should be in front of the battery.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 01:01:25 AM »

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CVOwner, see if the following photo helps.  These are from a prior post of mine showing the routing of the wiring on my LED/spoiler.  The connector should be in front of the battery.

I'll take a look, is it just a empty female connector?
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 01:04:28 AM »

it should be connector "12b" on the main harness but it may not be the same as the road glide
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 01:16:31 AM »

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it should be connector "12b" on the main harness but it may not be the same as the road glide

Oh but it is the same, it plugged right in and worked like a charm, run and stop light on the spoiler and old timey interior light glowing like mad. Once again this site has helped me out. 103, you are the man, I couldnt see the plug because it had a temp plug in it, i assume to keep the dirt out, the cord is way too short though. I'll have to adapt a disconnect anyways to be able to quick disconnect it from the bike.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 01:21:01 AM »

The color matches too, VR racing orange and Orange pearl  are identical just no pearl or flake, You cant tell though.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 03:55:20 AM »

It came out awesome, pictures to follow, lost my cable to  connect to camera. I cant believe how good it came out. I need to get some flames put on it and replace that "Screamin Eagle 1550 Road Glide" emblem with the Electra one. Very happy, as always, 103 helped me out. Now to get the quick disconnect setup, I know its been done on here so let me have it boys!!
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 07:25:39 AM »

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 I'll have to adapt a disconnect anyways to be able to quick disconnect it from the bike.

Pick up part number 70264-94A at the parts counter.  It's an accessory Y connector (a 1 into 2 adaptor) for that plug you're using in front of the battery.  That'll give you a male and female plug (and one spare) to cut off with enough pigtail left to make good solid splices too.  It'll give you everything you need to make the disconnects in the harness you want to and is a whole lot cheaper than buying the plug ends, terminals and other small pieces separately.  If I remember right the Y adaptor was about $15.00.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 10:27:30 PM »

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CVOwner, see if the following photo helps.  These are from a prior post of mine showing the routing of the wiring on my LED/spoiler.  The connector should be in front of the battery.

103,

Did you add a tour pack? And if you did, did you use this quick disconnect that twolanerider mentioned and where did you locate it?

Mike
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 11:05:49 PM »

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103,

Did you add a tour pack? And if you did, did you use this quick disconnect that twolanerider mentioned and where did you locate it?

Mike

Mike, I've got a king tour-pak but it is permanent mounted, therefore, no need for the quick disconnect.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2005, 11:50:53 PM »

Mike, it's not a difficult harness to make up or route if you're so inclined.  With that Y connector mentioned earlier just cut a male and female end off it and splice about 36" (if I remember right) of wire between the three of the four wires you need.  You only use three of them for the spoiler light; break light, running light and ground.  The fourth wire in the plug is a switched power lead switched by the accessory switch on the inner fairing.

I routed it such that the harness drops out of the RF cornner of the tour pak.  This way the connector is on the high side when the bike is on the kickstand.  You'll just connect up there in front of the battery, go back along the left side of the battery, cross over to the right side behind the battery laying along side the harness to the rear lights that is already resting there, drop down under the strut, then go back to a point roughly inline with the new harness drop from the tour pak.  Just make sure the length of the shortened harness you're dropping out of the tour pak is enough to meet your harness on the bike down beside the saddlebag so it's hidden from sight.

Here's the connector itself seen in the picture's left; toward the rear of the saddlebag.  When the tour pak is off I tuck it down inside the filler strip and you really don't see anything.  When either of the tour paks are on the bike the only way you see this is if you're standing right on top of it and looking almost straight down.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2005, 11:55:17 PM »

I've got the same connection coming out of the chopped or the big tour pak, so they look the same.  This pic shows the harness dropping down out of the king pak.  Unless you're standing in a position to get contrast against the chrome rack you hardly ever notice the harness.  And it'd have to hang down somewhere when it was in use whether it was detachable or not.  So it's not as if you can ever hide this little bit of harness any better when the tour pak is on.

All four wires on this harness actually happen to be in use.  The fourth leg that you normally wouldn't need for the spoiler light I used for unswitched power to the tour pak and saddlebag LED lights.  You can pick up that power where the stock tour pak light would normally plug in right behind the battery if you want to move everything in to as few harnesses as possible.  Since I don't use a rear antenna that means that both saddlebag LEDs, the LED inside the tour pak and the spoiler all connect through on this one little easily detachable harness; and nothng else goes to the tour pak.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2005, 01:58:40 AM »

The fourth wire in the plug is a switched power lead switched by the accessory switch on the inner fairing.

Do I have to  know which one this fourth wire is? can I just use all of them? I want to make this as easy as possible. I'm going to be replacing the light with the new one, I dont want it staying on and running the battery down. I'm assuming this (the new LED interior light) is a direct plugin? I'll shorten the harness on the tour pack to make it past the fender so I have enough to tuck in, then make the length from the battery to the pack.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2005, 02:21:52 AM »

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The fourth wire in the plug is a switched power lead switched by the accessory switch on the inner fairing.

Do I have to  know which one this fourth wire is? can I just use all of them? I want to make this as easy as possible. I'm going to be replacing the light with the new one, I dont want it staying on and running the battery down. I'm assuming this (the new LED interior light) is a direct plugin? I'll shorten the harness on the tour pack to make it past the fender so I have enough to tuck in, then make the length from the battery to the pack.


Sure,  you could just use all four wires straight through.  It'll work fine.  The only downside is you'll have two harnesses going in to the tour pak then instead of one.  One harness for the spoiler and one for the tour pak light.  Won't be quite as neat in the back.  And the interior tour pak's light's connection will still be under the seat.  But it'll work fine.

If you want to combine them it's not a big deal though.  With a test light or volt meter it'll be easy to find which two of the four leads carry brake light and running light power.  Then using the same light or meter see which of the other two is hot when you turn on the accessory switch.  The one that never gets power will be the ground wire.

When you know which one comes from the accessory switch just wire the other three straight through from one end to the other.  Then when the harness crosses over the fender behind the battery pick up the tour pak's power lead (its plug is there behind the battery) and run that in to the fourth lead in the harness you're making.  When done the harness at the rear of the bike will then be carrying a ground wire, brake lights, running lights and unswitched power.  Everything you need for the spoiler and your tour pak interior light (and the lights to shine down on the saddlebags should ever decide to add them).

Inside the tour pak you'll have to share the ground between the tour pak interior light and the spoiler.  The others will all be independent runs though.  Helping out will be that any connections spliced insde the tour pak will be hidden underneath the fitted liner for the tour pak.  That's the fitted liner you'll get if you haven't bought one already.  The tour pak "lid organizer" is also handy to hide and support the spoiler harness as it travels across the lid (and you thought you were done buying stuff for the tour pak).  For that matter, the lid organizer is just very handy in general use.

It sounds worse than it is (sorry).  But it's not a difficult chore to combine the two.  Certainly don't have to; not at all.  It's just easier and neater to have the tour pak light and the spoiler light all in one relatively obscure detachable harness and connection than it is to have two harnesses draped from the tour pak with the light's connection still under the seat.
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Re: Chopped tour pack installation problem
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2005, 06:52:11 PM »

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 It's just easier and neater to have the tour pak light and the spoiler light all in one relatively obscure detachable harness and connection than it is to have two harnesses draped from the tour pak with the light's connection still under the seat.

Twolaner,

check out this picture, I think since it came from the factory with the spoiler it's all done already. I just have one thick wire coming out of the bottom of the tour pack in front(?) and the other wire is the antenna connection (which doesnt fit the black mast stock antenna?) I think with the quick disconnect your talking about I should be ready to go.
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