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Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« on: August 24, 2009, 03:50:40 PM »
My friend owns the O/B and mentioned that sometimes, he hears a metallic sound, which he could not directly point to something. He insisted at the dealer
and now he has the result:

After removing the cylinder-head it has been found that the valve-cover to the valve-guide is loose, or broken. After some clarification it now came to light that even the valve-guide in cylinder-head is loose and this causes the sometimes loud noises. The engine is now broken down and a new cylinder head was appointed.

It's hard to translate the technical part, I hope everyone understands the google-translation.

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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 01:19:09 AM »
When did he herd that noise ?
 I sometimes hear some metallic noise when i let the clutch go out too fast , after stillstanding at a traffic light i.e.
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 08:22:44 AM »
Quote from: bandit on August 24, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
My friend owns the O/B and mentioned that sometimes, he hears a metallic sound, which he could not directly point to something. He insisted at the dealer
and now he has the result:

After removing the cylinder-head it has been found that the valve-cover to the valve-guide is loose, or broken. After some clarification it now came to light that even the valve-guide in cylinder-head is loose and this causes the sometimes loud noises. The engine is now broken down and a new cylinder head was appointed.

It's hard to translate the technical part, I hope everyone understands the google-translation.

Bandit

That was one of the issues supposedly addressed in the 110 enhancement program, where H-D replaced the heads on the '07 e-glides.  The valve guides could drop completely and hold the valve open, leading to some rather poor running and possible damage.  The fix was a retaining ring around the guide so it couldn't drop.  However, that still doesn't keep the guide from moving in the head if it wasn't fit properly to begin with.  Since you're talking about a '09 model, it appears H-D still has some issues with those heads.

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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 08:36:54 AM »
Quote from: grc on August 26, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
  The valve guides could drop completely and hold the valve open, leading to some rather poor running and possible damage. 
Jerry


Jerry

See picture below.
The exhaust valve is stuck open.
I suspect you may have hit the nail on the head with your post above.
This is the head off the front cylinder on my 09 SEUC with 19900 miles on it.

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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 08:38:09 AM »
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 08:41:39 AM »


And as to the obvious, the motor don't run very good when the exhaust valve is stuck open regardless of the reason.


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 :2vrolijk_21:


Click on this or any of the above pictures to enlarge!
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 09:56:02 AM »
Oh chit , i have to let the dealer check this issue at my scooter , i believe in bad things happening to my engine .
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 09:56:14 AM »
The exhaust valve on mine was found to be stuck about an inch higher and had to be pounded on both ends to break loose. Was running fine when I pulled it in for the 0905 job. Must have just happened as I was pulling in. It was the rear head leaking and rear cylinder base. Guides were ok but guide seals were leaking. :nixweiss:
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 12:51:23 PM »
Quote from: SBB on August 26, 2009, 08:36:54 AM

Jerry

See picture below.
The exhaust valve is stuck open.
I suspect you may have hit the nail on the head with your post above.
This is the head off the front cylinder on my 09 SEUC with 19900 miles on it.

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Dnag Chip, that does not look good.  Did  you find it or the dealer?
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 05:24:23 PM »
Quote from: FLSTFI Dave on August 26, 2009, 12:51:23 PM
Dnag Chip, that does not look good.  Did  you find it or the dealer?


Dave

It found me!
Almost home from a 500 mile trip.
Had to push it the last 500'.
And it's a heavy puppy!


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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 05:28:24 PM »
Quote from: SBB on August 26, 2009, 05:24:23 PM



Had to push it the last 500'.
And it's a heavy puppy!


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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 05:40:13 PM »
Quote from: DICKW on August 26, 2009, 05:28:24 PM
1,000 LBS. LOADED UP.

Don't you hate that?

Even more if he has that trailer behind him!

At least it was 500' from home...
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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 05:50:39 PM »
Quote from: 2009_FLTRSEI3 on August 26, 2009, 05:40:13 PM
Even more if he has that trailer behind him!

At least it was 500' from home...

Actually, we were headed home but it quit 500' before the entrance to the Harley shop.
It was closed but I called the owner and he met us there to put it in service!

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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 06:03:54 PM »
We were a block away from our dealer when the Fatboy died...

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Re: Anyone mentioned metallic noise from the motor?
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2009, 12:53:38 PM »
Quote from: SBB on August 26, 2009, 05:24:23 PM

Dave

It found me!
Almost home from a 500 mile trip.
Had to push it the last 500'.
And it's a heavy puppy!


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Man that sucks, but on the bright side you were close to the dealer rather than out in the middle of no where
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