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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #165 on: February 11, 2010, 08:17:52 PM »

I'll bet with all the Toyota problems going on, companies are going to be a bit more responsive to these issues :2vrolijk_21:

We are talking about the MoCo right?  They've essentially had almost a year and a half to fix this issue as it first cropped up in the SERG.  I wouldn't bet that we get a rapid response out of them anytime soon.  As long as no one gets killed or seriously injured because the seat flew off, they won't rush a fix to us anytime soon.

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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #166 on: February 11, 2010, 11:26:48 PM »

Lets look at the number of complaints dealing with this specific issue.  If 3000 RG CVO were made in 2009 and lets say 1000 this year thus far we are only talking about 4000 units.  If you minus the ones who haven't "officially" placed a complaint (like myself) we may be only looking at a very small number.  Given this the MoCo may not "officially" recognize a problem.  We should rally and get as many RG and SG CVO owners to make an "official" complaint and get this properly highlighted.

Anyone know how to actually get the correct folks at the MoCo notified?
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #167 on: February 12, 2010, 12:47:51 AM »


Is there NOBODY interested in knowing if this bracket will work and push the seat up far enough?

There's more to it than just pushing the seat up...
The seat pan is too darn soft/flexible. I think many of us are looking for a redesigned seat pan.
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #168 on: February 12, 2010, 05:59:46 AM »

There's more to it than just pushing the seat up...
The seat pan is too darn soft/flexible. I think many of us are looking for a redesigned seat pan.

And that you may not get.  The MoCo is going to go with, if they go with anything, the cheapest (to them) to fix.  They have consistently used inferior, IMO, seat pan material, causing them to be too flexible. Unfortunately with the SERG and SESG seats being a little shorter and not riding up on the tank as much as the stock RG and SG seats, when the pan flexes downward due to the driver's weight, it causes the separation.  IMO all factory seats do this, it's just that on most of them, they ride up on the tank enough that when they do "settle" in, you don't see a gap.  I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the MoCo to redesign the seat pan anytime soon.

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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #169 on: February 12, 2010, 11:59:32 AM »

I am having the same problem.  Dealer has notified HD about it but no resolution yet.
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #170 on: February 13, 2010, 05:08:24 PM »

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/820-195

I have this bracket in my possession.  I just don't have my bike yet (in heated storage at the Dealer until the snow melts) Would someone please measure the stock bracket I measured this one.
How far apart are the centers of the two holes on the seat side of the stock bracket?  How far apart are the fender hole and the closest seat side hole?

Mustang Bracket Measurements
The center of hole A (I almost said "center of A hole"  ;)) is 2 3/8" from the center of hole B.   The Centers of B and C are 1 9/32" apart.  Hole A is 7/16" in diameter and B & C are each 5/16" diameter.  The entire bracket is 4 11/32" long, 1 inch wide and 1/8" thick.

If someone could give me the same measurements off the stock bracket, we can calculate how far forward this bracket will push the stock seat.  You can't tell by the picture, but this Mustang bracket has a nice chrome finish.

Bump.....Still hoping someone will take these measurements for me.   Please.
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #171 on: February 13, 2010, 05:20:50 PM »

a better photo of bracket described above.....
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #172 on: February 14, 2010, 12:06:09 AM »

Oh, what the ----, I just bought the crapy little bracket.  The chrome plating was flaking off on mine anyway.  Should have it by next week and I'll let you all know if it worked/exact measurements.  I'm in San Antonio so there are no issues with the bike being in a "bubble" somewhere in hibernation  ;D
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #173 on: February 14, 2010, 12:14:09 AM »

Oh, what the ----, I just bought the crapy little bracket.  The chrome plating was flaking off on mine anyway.  Should have it by next week and I'll let you all know if it worked/exact measurements.  I'm in San Antonio so there are no issues with the bike being in a "bubble" somewhere in hibernation  ;D

That would be great to know if it works.  I was looking for measurements for the STOCK bracket to try and figure that out on my own (without access to the bike).  Exact measurements of the Mustang bracket are posted above. 

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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #174 on: February 14, 2010, 12:41:05 AM »

That would be great to know if it works.  I was looking for measurements for the STOCK bracket to try and figure that out on my own (without access to the bike).  Exact measurements of the Mustang bracket are posted above. 


Alright, just went out to the garage and measured the original bracket.  Using the picture labeled above the measurements are as follows:
Overall length-4 3/4
Center of A to B 1 7/8
Center of B to C 1 1/4

Hope this is what you are looking for  ;)
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #175 on: February 14, 2010, 01:05:23 AM »

Thank You MKW.  That means the Mustang bracket will move the seat forward 1/2".  I hope it's enough to solve the gap issue.
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #176 on: February 14, 2010, 01:09:29 AM »

Thank You MKW.  That means the Mustang bracket will move the seat forward 1/2".  I hope it's enough to solve the gap issue.

Keep an eye out on this thread and I'll post it for everyone when it comes in.  I attach before and after photos of the gap but this should help a bit.
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #177 on: February 14, 2010, 11:48:58 AM »

Thank You MKW.  That means the Mustang bracket will move the seat forward 1/2".  I hope it's enough to solve the gap issue.

Shifting the seat forward removes all the support points on the frame and places the stress of your body weight focused on the single rear bolt. This may cause the bolt to strip from the fender?

Not a fix I would be comfortable with?
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #178 on: February 14, 2010, 12:08:37 PM »

Shifting the seat forward removes all the support points on the frame and places the stress of your body weight focused on the single rear bolt. This may cause the bolt to strip from the fender?

Not a fix I would be comfortable with?

Support under the seat?  Why does the gap appear when you sit on it if there is any support in stock form?
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Re: Gap between seat and tanK?
« Reply #179 on: February 14, 2010, 12:12:03 PM »

Support under the seat?  Why does the gap appear when you sit on it if there is any support in stock form?

Due to the seat being made 1.5" to 2" shorter than the other seats.

All the seats retract about a 1/2" there is not gap as they are long enough to allow for this. If they made the Dash an inch longer this seat would fit too?

Shifting the whole seat out of alignment to the frame wouldnt be my first choice. Thats why its hanging on the wall of the garage.
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