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[Blazo]

At only 8400 miles, I have maybe 10% left on my rear brake pads on a '09 SERG with ABS.  The wear is fairly even on both sides. I've never gotten such chitty wear out of a set of brake pads. What kind of brake pad mileage are others seeing? What could be causing the pads to wear out prematurely? Last question: What's the preferred replacement pad?

[Fired00d]

Can't explain the wear, but a better brake pad over stock are Lyndall Z+ Brake Pads.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[BillH]

Another vote for the Z-pads

[Twolanerider]

Like you haven't seen that short of mileage on rear pads.  Even old shoes lasted much better that that.  Just took the rear pads off the old 2000 bike and replaced the stockers with Lyndalls.  Those stock pads had gone 25k miles.

Put this in the category of "one of those things I'm not sure I believe is really a big deal and actually think is bullchit."  But I read an article proclaiming that different levels of grip supplied by different types of brake pads would foul up the application of the ABS on Harley's ABS system.  Since the sensor only cares if the wheel is still rotating or not I'd always called "bullchit" on this.  Then I read of some download Harley was doing to make the ABS system behave better with different tires installed.  That one made me scratch my head a little bit too.  Sometimes all I know is that I don't really know for sure.

[11]

Traded my SEEG in with 22,000 on the rear Lyndall Z+ pads on it and I still have the OE pads that looked like new @ 8000 when I took them off. But then I probably use the rear brakes once a month, if that, to hold the bike on a hill. Otherwise Never use them except to panic stop. Fronts more than adequate to stop the bike 99% of the time and as we all know, provide 70% of the stopping power anyway. Not sure how you could wear out a set of pads in 8400 miles, are they dragging for some reason?

[Cvostu]

lyndall z+    you cant go wrong.. I have 'em on 2 bikes.

[LarryB]

yep Lyndall Z-plus, they have them for your bike. the reason yours wore out so fast is,,,,,you ride the rear brake too much. happens alot on these bigger bikes, guys are afraid to gear down for fear of running rpms up too high. runnem up there and lay off the rear brake so much, I'm just sayin 

[Twolanerider]

Many recommendations for what pads to use as replacements.  Nothing on why your OE pads are gone prematurely though.  It's worth checking out.

Not many causes for premature brake wear.  Most likely are a caliper that's hanging up a bit or a right foot that unknowingly rides the brake pedal.  Might also have a brake line collapsed internally not allowing full release or even a problem in the master cylinder causing the same.  But those would be less likely options.

[sadunbar]

Many recommendations for what pads to use as replacements.  Nothing on why your OE pads are gone prematurely though.  It's worth checking out.

Not many causes for premature brake wear.  Most likely are a caliper that's hanging up a bit or a right foot that unknowingly rides the brake pedal.  Might also have a brake line collapsed internally not allowing full release or even a problem in the master cylinder causing the same.  But those would be less likely options.

 

[grc]

yep Lyndall Z-plus, they have them for your bike. the reason yours wore out so fast is,,,,,you ride the rear brake too much. happens alot on these bigger bikes, guys are afraid to gear down for fear of running rpms up too high. runnem up there and lay off the rear brake so much, I'm just sayin 

Another recommendation for the Lyndall pads, 7254-Z for the '08 and later Touring models.   http://lyndallracingbrakes.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=7254-Z&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1

I want to say this without ticking you off, but tact was never my long suit.  It may very well be just as Larry stated, you may be riding that rear brake and not even realizing how much you do it.  I've noticed lots of folks on baggers using the rear brake almost exclusively.  Most of the braking power available, over 70%, is at the front.  However, many people were taught, incorrectly, to rely on the rear brake because the front brake might throw you over the bars or cause the front end to wash out.  I've heard that from people since I started out riding in 1965, and it's a myth that persists to this day.  While that may have some validity for dirt bikes and trail riding, depending on terrain and situation, it's not directly translatable to street riding.   

Of course, there is always a possibilty of a mechanical problem as well.  If you raise the rear wheel off the ground and spin the tire, will it turn relatively easily or is the brake dragging heavily?  If it's dragging heavily, you may have a sticking caliper/piston, a defective master cylinder, etc.. 

Jerry

[Rooster]

Still have stock pads front and rear at 25k but mine sits in the shop way to much.

[Blazo]

Thanks for all the replies. I use Lyndall on my other bike and checked their web site for pads for the 09. Didn't find pads for that year but somebody posted a link that I'll check out. I don't use the rear brake excessively and I know that the fronts are more effective. I do use the rear to scrub speed in corners since using the front in corners tends to stand the bike up while the rear doesn't.

I'll get the bike up on a lift and spin the tire to see if there is any excess drag.

One more question for those that have bike lift tables with a front tire chock & clamp. What is the preferred method to remove either front or rear tire while the bike is on the table?

[Blazo]

You sure these are the right pads? The site says for '08... doesn't mention the '09s. The photo of brake pads on the MOCO site (http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448769140&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309355136&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309355136&bmUID=1255191660077&bmLocale=en_US) doesn't match the photo of the Lyndalls. Thanks

Another recommendation for the Lyndall pads, 7254-Z for the '08 and later Touring models.   http://lyndallracingbrakes.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=L&Product_Code=7254-Z&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1

I want to say this without ticking you off, but tact was never my long suit.  It may very well be just as Larry stated, you may be riding that rear brake and not even realizing how much you do it.  I've noticed lots of folks on baggers using the rear brake almost exclusively.  Most of the braking power available, over 70%, is at the front.  However, many people were taught, incorrectly, to rely on the rear brake because the front brake might throw you over the bars or cause the front end to wash out.  I've heard that from people since I started out riding in 1965, and it's a myth that persists to this day.  While that may have some validity for dirt bikes and trail riding, depending on terrain and situation, it's not directly translatable to street riding.   

Of course, there is always a possibilty of a mechanical problem as well.  If you raise the rear wheel off the ground and spin the tire, will it turn relatively easily or is the brake dragging heavily?  If it's dragging heavily, you may have a sticking caliper/piston, a defective master cylinder, etc.. 

Jerry

[grc]

You sure these are the right pads? The site says for '08... doesn't mention the '09s. The photo of brake pads on the MOCO site doesn't match the photo of the Lyndalls. Thanks

The photo on the Lyndall site is correct, the one on the Harley site is not.  Doesn't really surprise me, H-D fired all the proofreaders a few years back so they could increase executive compensation again.    The pads are the same for '08 and later, so even though Lyndall didn't update their description to "'08 and up", that is the correct pad.  Give them a call or send them an email if you have questions, they are good folks and will be happy to help you.
800-400-9490
lyndallbrakes@lyndallracingbrakes.com

I'm attaching the instruction sheets for the rear brake pad kit H-D put out to address the rear brake squeal issue on the '08 and later Touring models.  Take a look at the drawings and photo's of the pads and compare to the Lyndall photo.

Jerry

[grc]

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