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[TIF2]

Just read about one of these in Bagger, where they did a complete how-to install. Seems as though H-D hasn't tamed all the handling demons with the new frame, the article mentions a tendancy for the rear-end to wobble entering turns. They said this thing puts it on rails. A little pricey but seems to be well made and engineered. Basically it provides a third stabilizing link for the motor to the frame.

It mounts underneath the bike and cannot be seen once installed.

www.true-track.com



Thoughts? I think I need one.

[Widows Son]

Here is another thread that may help you in the forum.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=41934.0

As I understand (and I may be wrong) the frame isn't the full picture of rear end wobble. Its also a function of the engine mounts. Since tourers don't used the balanced engine as the Softail, they instead rubber mount (I think) the touring unbalanced twin. This is why HD refers to the "B" in the 96B engine while tourers only get the 96. Possibly the same theory in the 110. Since the engine isn't rigid mounted it can sway in its mounts due to the physics of taking a turn. This is what starts a wobble...I think there was a recent article in the latest American Rider magazine (Dec'09) on Wiggle and Wobble which was pretty good. It tells you have to manage a situation of front end wiggle and rear end wobble. Anyway, the aobe link will take you to the thread with a whole lot'a info.

[TIF2]

Thanks for the link ... I'll probably wind up getting one as I don't see hoiw it could do anything but help.

[RedDevil]

maybe my SESG isn't old enough yet, but I've pushed it through some pretty tight corners and have not noticed any rear end wobble, wibble, wooble, or whatever you want to call it.  It's been rock solid. 
 

[Gone Fishin']

I don't think they offer anything for 2010 models, although they have a touring version for 2009. 2009 and 2010 should be practically identical. In any case, the device seems to be a solution to a problem not really existing after the frame change. All wobble or similar experienced on these new bikes, if at all, seems to come from the batwing effects.

Ride safely,
Louis

[Mr. Wizard]

I don't think they offer anything for 2010 models, although they have a touring version for 2009. 2009 and 2010 should be practically identical. In any case, the device seems to be a solution to a problem not really existing after the frame change. All wobble or similar experienced on these new bikes, if at all, seems to come from the batwing effects.

Ride safely,
Louis

+1

I have a true-track on my 07 UC and can be at the Dragon in only a few hours so I am there a lot. Before the true-track I had issues with rear end wobble, after the installation all wobble was gone. The true-track adds a fourth link to the frame, Willy G himself said a fourth mount or link was necessary. This device can be installed in about 15 to 25 minutes and was a real help to me. Since then, I have triked the UC and left the device on. The trike will absolutely handle like it is on a rail while others seem to have more difficulty in turns than I and seem to be adding the true-track to their Harley trikes.

During the break in period of my SESG I went straight to the mountains. This was great for changing RPM's in acceleration and decel. The handling experience of new frame is just beyond words. I doubt the true-track is necessary and see no need to install one unless you simply want one.


Cheers

[JCZ]

Tru Tra Track has been around for a couple of years....nothing new.

I haven't read of anybody with an 09 or 10 having this problem.  Am I missing something or is just propoganda to increase sales?

[RedDevil]

Tru Tra Track has been around for a couple of years....nothing new.

I haven't read of anybody with an 09 or 10 having this problem.  Am I missing something or is just propoganda to increase sales?

Ya hit it on the head JC...they're making something up, IMO.   I think they figured they'll plant the scare and that will allow them to stay in business selling something that you don't really need.  The new rear end assembly on the HDs is going to put them out of business, unless they come up with something other than the Tru-trak.

[hd-dude]

Tru Tra Track has been around for a couple of years....nothing new.

I haven't read of anybody with an 09 or 10 having this problem.  Am I missing something or is just propoganda to increase sales?

Ya hit it on the head JC...they're making something up, IMO.   I think they figured they'll plant the scare and that will allow them to stay in business selling something that you don't really need.  The new rear end assembly on the HDs is going to put them out of business, unless they come up with something other than the Tru-trak.

 

[TIF2]

Crazy that rags just print stuff without going in-depth to see if products do what they say they do, or address a real problem. The article is in the Tech section of the latest American Bagger. If you read their write-up, sure seems like it is a "must-have". Guess it's more about the Vendor plugs than responsible journalism, eh? Did some more research and found one article that states the 2009 frame ALREADY has 4 mount points for the motor.

Looks like there is $400 back into the mod pool  

Thanks for all the replies

[Mr. Wizard]

The handling experience of new frame is just beyond words. I doubt the true-track is necessary and see no need to install one unless you simply want one.

No propaganda here... but I think it is weird that you insinuate that.

Anyway..  headed to Charlotte this morning on the trike and going to enjoy a beautiful weekend. Hope everyone gets out and has a great day.

Cheers.

[Hoist!]

I haven't ridden an '09 or '10 yet, but I'll bet I can put it into a wobble. With the same rubber-mounted package, I'm not necessarily convinced they got rid of it. The frame was made cause it's cheaper to build em this way, not to make the bike more stable. HD doesn't really GAS about that. And I've heard of some picking up a wobble on em. Installing a 3rd link on these rubber-mounts make good sense and can't hurt. But I wouldn't bet the farm that HD has cured all it's evils on these things!

Hoist!

[JCZ]

No propaganda here... but I think it is weird that you insinuate that.

Anyway..  headed to Charlotte this morning on the trike and going to enjoy a beautiful weekend. Hope everyone gets out and has a great day.

Cheers.

Not suggesting that you are creating propoganda.....you're just reporting on what you read.  We all do that and I don't think anybody holds you responsable.  I apologize for the misunderstanding.

My comment is directed at whoever wrote that article.  Did Tru Track write it.....or did the magazine that gets big advertsing $ from True Track?  From my off the cuff perspective, there in lies the propoganda.  

What makes me suggest "propoganda"?  In years past, it's no secreat that many of the baggers had an issue and their were many opinions and many products (Tru Track has been out for years, it's not new) to correct the issue.  Some of those ideas and products helped some but not others......it was a shot in the dark for those of us forking over the $.

In 09 the MoCo came out with a new frame that has corrected the issue.  There are many, many 09 and 10 model year baggers out on the road.....some already have 10s of thousands of miles.....and I haven't read of one case of the handling issue.  If somebody (a writer) or True Track themselves are reporting that it's still an issue, I ask them to back it up.  Where are they getting their information?

I happen to think this forum right hear would know about that issue (or any other issue) before an after market mfg. or even the MoCo on this issue or any other issue.  There's more accurate and reliable information on this forum than all the other forums put together.  Just my opinion, but it's what I believe.

Howie.....you're the only one I know that would make a bet like that.  Never knew anybody that would "want" to put it into a wobble.  

I'd just suggest that you go ride an 09/10 MY before making comments like this.  Like anything man made, there's going to be an exception in there someplace but overall, the issue is corrected.  I've still yet to hear from the 100s of thousands of 09/10 baggers out there on the road, of one case of the old issue.

**Edit**  By the way, when you go rent one of those 09/10 baggers, be prepared to fork out some $, cause you're damn sure going to want one......with a fairing, too.

[mjb765]

When I had my 06 SG there is a specific road here that if I went fast enough around the bend I could put that thing into a wobble every time. I guess it was just the right combination and location of the bumps in the turn. When I got my '10 I went to the same spot and it was rock solid the entire time. I'm not spending $400 on this stabilizer just yet.

[Hoist!]

Howie.....you're the only one I know that would make a bet like that.  Never knew anybody that would "want" to put it into a wobble.  

I'd just suggest that you go ride an 09/10 MY before making comments like this.  Like anything man made, there's going to be an exception in there someplace but overall, the issue is corrected.  I've still yet to hear from the 100s of thousands of 09/10 baggers out there on the road, of one case of the old issue.

**Edit**  By the way, when you go rent one of those 09/10 baggers, be prepared to fork out some $, cause you're damn sure going to want one......with a fairing, too.

HeHe!!! Not saying there's NO improvement JC, but with the same rubber-mount setup, and a cheaper to build solution, I said I'm not convinced that it's gone. HD didn't change the design to fix the wobble. Then they'd be admitting that they had a problem with the previous models that way.

Don't get me wrong. Any improvement is good, whether it's coincidental or by design. And the True Track provides improvement to some degree, but it's not necessarily a solution either. Mine can wobble with the True Track. Next step in my addressing this is a Steering Damper setup on Cybil. Another experiment on my part. And I'd love to come out there and take you up on riding that new hot rod of yours. But until there's a SERK5, a new bike just ain't gonna happen for me JC! FTF!!!

Hoist!