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[laylonlor]

what is the diff. in a stock 103 cvo motor,  vrs a stock 110 cvo  motor, and  whats the diff., when both have a stage one upgrade?

[DICKW]

what is the diff. in a stock 103 cvo motor,  vrs a stock 110 cvo  motor, and  whats the diff., when both have a stage one upgrade?

You will have to be a little more specific (year of motors), these guys around here will need to know that before a good answer can be given.

[laylonlor]

04 103 ci cvo  seeg,   hp?  vrs. 2010 cvo 110 ci street glide hp?,

[JCZ]

Good question.  I don't know of anybody that ever dynoed a stock motor on a 103 or a 110.  As we all know, dynoing is expensive and nobody ever wanted to spend the money for no gain.

Everybody gets a base run (starting point) but that generally after the mod has been performed and before they start tuning it for peak performance.

You can see the stock HP that the MoCo claimed back then vs. what they're claiming now however, that doesn't show torque. 

Seat of the pants torque...... I believe the 110 has more torque than my stock 103 had.  But I think the numbers were greater with a 103 with simple mods such as, air cleaner, exhaust, cams and tuner.  My SEEG pumped 104 HP and 113 TQ.  I don't see a 110 doing that with just an air cleaner, exhaust, cams and tuner.   I'll find out in just a couple of weeks.

[redtwin]

My 07 se springer 94hp 114 tq,2-1 reinhardt,zippers ac,and sert,my buddys 04 seeg same mods 97 hp 103 tq,differnt dyno
 it would be hard to tell unless they were dyno'd at the same time and place.

[Hoist!]

There's NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! A properly tuned 110 can always be built more powerful than the 103. Even in stock form with breather, pipes and tuner. Will it last is what you should wanna know!

Hoist!

[JCZ]

There's NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! A properly tuned 110 can always be built more powerful than the 103. Even in stock form with breather, pipes and tuner. Will it last is what you should wanna know!

Hoist!

Howie, his question was stock vs. a stage 1.

[laylonlor]

i agree jcz, i think my 103 cvo was easier to get  100 hp, than this new 110cvo, from what i've been reading,, i was asking, in either form stock vrs stock or stage 1, vers stage 1, i think the 103  ci cvo, is more bang for the buck

[Trapperdog]

  But I think the numbers were greater with a 103 with simple mods such as, air cleaner, exhaust, cams and tuner.  My SEEG pumped 104 HP and 113 TQ.  I don't see a 110 doing that with just an air cleaner, exhaust, cams and tuner.   I'll find out in just a couple of weeks.

My "07 with PC3, pipes, 251 cam, cleaner: 108,  112.  I say a dyno sheet with the same cams but T.H. pipes and a sert = 113, 117

[victor17]

I just got 2010 cvo ultra, have already checked into building up motor, with cams, heads ported, air cleaner, and exhaust you will get 106 hp and 113 tq. I've seen the dyno sheets and have drove an 09 that had this done.

Vic

[Sklywag]

Here are two comparisons, unfortunately like has been said no one Dyno's before the mods are done.

These are both 2006 SE Ultra's with 103's

Mine was done in CA at sea level, I added the original SE Slip on mufflers & the SE high flow air cleaner.  It produced 86 hp & 94 torq base run & with tuning produced 95 hp & 102 torque

The other belongs to a friend & was done here in Reno (4500') at Freedom by Brad, he added the SE high flow AC & the Freedom Elite D pipes.  It produced 100 hp & 100 torque.  The base run was not a comparison as he had other pipes on it & had it tuned with them.

Obviously the YB Elite D pipes make a huge difference over the SE slip ons.

Now mine with the new 103 motor, YB Pistons, Slight head work that included blending & larger intake valves, YB13 cams, & the Elite D pipes now produces 104 hp & 114 torque at 4500'.

Remember elevation, temperature, humidity all have an effect when comparing performance.  Dyno reading are a snapshot in time based on all effecting environmental factors.  The computers that control our motors do a very good job of compensating for all of these factors when compared with a few years ago when trying to make a carbureted motor perform.

[Hoist!]

Howie, his question was stock vs. a stage 1.

Stock don't even count. Stock IS Stage 1 as far as I'm concerned, and I stand by my statement. And anything more than that too. Any work done apples to apples, the larger motor will win is all I'm sayin.

Hoist!

[HOGMIKE]

Stock don't even count. Stock IS Stage 1 as far as I'm concerned, and I stand by my statement. And anything more than that too. Any work done apples to apples, the larger motor will win is all I'm sayin.

Hoist!

Yep!
I figured this out years ago......
If you wanna go fast, go BIG!
I use that thought for my hot rods, AND my bikes!!!

Of course, this is just my 2cents!!!

[Talon]

There's NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!! A properly tuned 110 can always be built more powerful than the 103. Even in stock form with breather, pipes and tuner. Will it last is what you should wanna know!

Hoist!

Yes there is, reliability!! 

[jfh]

You can find both stock and Stage 1 numbers for an '09 Serg here. After a brief search in the SEEG area, I found this chart which claims to shows stock, Stage 1, and two additional configurations for the CVO 103. Stock numbers seem to be above what most others reported.