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[HOGMIKE]

Any feedback from those of you that wrapped your touring CVO muffler baffles with additional fiberglass mat?

I just did a test ride on the 113" bike with 2" Fullsac baffles.

I really did not notice any decrease in the sound levels when cruising or, "on it". This bike has quite a "bark" to the exhaust when gassing it. Guess I'll just have to go easy when law is nearby!! It DOES sound sweet~!!

Stuff I got from Ebay: 140360284096

I also wrapped my 103" bike with the same stuff on 1.75" baffles and will test ride it soon. This bike is quieter anyway (stock motor) and my goal is to mimic a stock muffled bike.

Thanks in advance.........and..........Happy Thanksgiving!

[jfh]

HogMike,

If you discover a stock sound-level solution that does not significantly compromise performance, you have found the Holy Grail. Unlike many riders who actually want a more aggressive sound, I'd take stock noise levels in a heartbeat if I could maintain the performance level of the Fullsac. I have also tried SuperTrapp, but after installing enough discs to get them to perform, even they were loud, just in a different way. S&S SPOs are probably the closest option, but won't fit my SERG3.

Guess I'm gettin' old!

[HOGMIKE]

HogMike,

If you discover a stock sound-level solution that does not significantly compromise performance, you have found the Holy Grail. Unlike many riders who actually want a more aggressive sound, I'd take stock noise levels in a heartbeat if I could maintain the performance level of the Fullsac. I have also tried SuperTrapp, but after installing enough discs to get them to perform, even they were loud, just in a different way. S&S SPOs are probably the closest option, but won't fit my SERG3.

Guess I'm gettin' old!

Agree....
Only mufflers that I can think of that match that criteria is the S&S.
IMO, they are b*** ugly, though.

[JCZ]

HogMike,

If you discover a stock sound-level solution that does not significantly compromise performance, you have found the Holy Grail.  Unlike many riders who actually want a more aggressive sound, I'd take stock noise levels in a heartbeat if I could maintain the performance level of the Fullsac. I have also tried SuperTrapp, but after installing enough discs to get them to perform, even they were loud, just in a different way. S&S SPOs are probably the closest option, but won't fit my SERG3.

Guess I'm gettin' old!

I think there's more of us with similar thinking....than what we realize.

I run Thunderheader for about the past fifteen years however, I'd prefer a performance exhaust that's quiet as possible now.  Plus........I enjoy being able to hear my stereo at 80 mph.

My motor is completly stock right now.  My primary goal is to cool it down yet keep it quiet as possible....performance is now a secondary goal.  So......I'm going with the 1.75 Fullsac baffle, keeping the stock packing and a TTS Mastertuner.  I know it will be a little louder than I'm probably wanting but at least it will run cooler come the summer time.

[RedDevil]

I think there's more of us with similar thinking....than what we realize.

I run Thunderheader for about the past fifteen years however, I'd prefer a performance exhaust that's quiet as possible now.  Plus........I enjoy being able to hear my stereo at 80 mph.

My motor is completly stock right now.  My primary goal is to cool it down yet keep it quiet as possible....performance is now a secondary goal.  So......I'm going with the 1.75 Fullsac baffle, keeping the stock packing and a TTS Mastertuner.  I know it will be a little louder than I'm probably wanting but at least it will run cooler come the summer time.

JC,
If you like the stock pipe sound, why don't you keep them on and use the TTS to bring your AFR down from 14.7 to 13.7 to 13.9...that should give you the cooling you want and keep you satisfied with the sound.     There's no rule, that I know of, that say you have to change mufflers/pipes before you can tune your bike. 

[Wheelsnkeels]

JC,
If you like the stock pipe sound, why don't you keep them on and use the TTS to bring your AFR down from 14.7 to 13.7 to 13.9...that should give you the cooling you want and keep you satisfied with the sound.    There's no rule, that I know of, that say you have to change mufflers/pipes before you can tune your bike.  

Just add the nightrider.com XIED plug and play to get to 13.8 and the cooling will be acheived



The XiED(tm) is the preferred upgrade by most riders. The richer fuel mixture provides better heat reduction and improved performance.
Nightrider's unique "patent pending" design approximates a richer fuel mixtures to quickly and simply improve the closed loop fuel mixture on your TC96/103/110 engine from 14.6:1 to 13.8:1. This results in cooler exhaust temperatures. Recommended for stock bikes and those with upgraded exhaust or intake.

[dartman]

Just add the nightrider.com XIED plug and play to get to 13.8 and the cooling will be acheived



The XiED(tm) is the preferred upgrade by most riders. The richer fuel mixture provides better heat reduction and improved performance.
Nightrider's unique "patent pending" design approximates a richer fuel mixtures to quickly and simply improve the closed loop fuel mixture on your TC96/103/110 engine from 14.6:1 to 13.8:1. This results in cooler exhaust temperatures. Recommended for stock bikes and those with upgraded exhaust or intake.


Agreed, on a near stock bike they work just fine, better drivability at low speeds, a little better accelleration, and a little less heat.

[Diamondback]

 

At the suggestion of Fuel Moto, I removed the baffles from my Rinehart slipons and wrapped them with muffler wrap.  The sound was siginficantly reduced as the wrap keeps the sound from vibrating through the exterior.  Plus the actual muffler itself is cooler (as would be expected).

More importantly, I noticed no difference in the power and the sound is a much lower rumble and much quieter.

I would not go back.

 

[lv2ride56]

Got a pair of 06 cans with 1.75 Fullsac baffles. Ran them for a short while and didn't think they were much louder than stock except when running it up.Then they bark pretty good. Took my stock mufflers removed the baffles and removed the converter from both baffles before putting them back on the bike. Still pretty quiet with a bit more rumble and also seems to be quicker on the throttle. 06's with the Fullsacs are back in the box for now.

[jfh]

Just add the nightrider.com XIED plug and play to get to 13.8 and the cooling will be acheived



The XiED(tm) is the preferred upgrade by most riders. The richer fuel mixture provides better heat reduction and improved performance.
Nightrider's unique "patent pending" design approximates a richer fuel mixtures to quickly and simply improve the closed loop fuel mixture on your TC96/103/110 engine from 14.6:1 to 13.8:1. This results in cooler exhaust temperatures. Recommended for stock bikes and those with upgraded exhaust or intake.

Granted that richer fuel mixtures will provide some heat reduction over the stock settings, but elevated temps can also be caused by the stock timing maps developed to meet EPA emissions standards. In addition to the heat management, timing changes improve performance significantly. I'd opt for the TTS Mastertune so I could change both the AFR and timing.

[HOGMIKE]

Just add the nightrider.com XIED plug and play to get to 13.8 and the cooling will be acheived



The XiED(tm) is the preferred upgrade by most riders. The richer fuel mixture provides better heat reduction and improved performance.
Nightrider's unique "patent pending" design approximates a richer fuel mixtures to quickly and simply improve the closed loop fuel mixture on your TC96/103/110 engine from 14.6:1 to 13.8:1. This results in cooler exhaust temperatures. Recommended for stock bikes and those with upgraded exhaust or intake.

I hope I don't have to get to 13.8:1 to achieve my desired tune. I'm at 14.4:1 now (closed loop), and slowly going richer, one step at a time. I like my gas mileage, and power and hate to think I'm messing up my VE.
I AM running 13.2:1 at idle and decel to help a little at this point.
Still playing with the new bike!
I like the option of being able to change the settings where I ride, rather than take a "preset number" and be done, but, that's just ME!

[Wheelsnkeels]

I hope I don't have to get to 13.8:1 to achieve my desired tune. I'm at 14.4:1 now (closed loop), and slowly going richer, one step at a time. I like my gas mileage, and power and hate to think I'm messing up my VE.
I AM running 13.2:1 at idle and decel to help a little at this point.
Still playing with the new bike!
I like the option of being able to change the settings where I ride, rather than take a "preset number" and be done, but, that's just ME!

Not everyone is a self tuner nor do they need to tweak every percentage point of performance. This option is for the person who wishes to enhance the stock motor for under $200 (Half the price of TTS) and be able to reverse it on the road with one wrench should they have a warranty issue.

If you a gear head then by all means the TTS is great   just more expensive.

Also to go back to a  factory tune for service you need to have the SERT and a laptop with you before getting warranty service.

This is actually very comparable to re-jetting the carbuerator in the older models.

 

[JCZ]

JC,
If you like the stock pipe sound, why don't you keep them on and use the TTS to bring your AFR down from 14.7 to 13.7 to 13.9...that should give you the cooling you want and keep you satisfied with the sound.     There's no rule, that I know of, that say you have to change mufflers/pipes before you can tune your bike. 

I am keeping the stock mufflers.  Getting rid of the cat and going with the small Fullsac baffles and the TTS.  That should make it sound a little more like a Harley yet not increse the volumne to much and get the temps down.

[Wheelsnkeels]

Sounds like a plan! I'll be curious how much increase in volume you pick up. Losing the CAT I think makes a significant contribution.

Get before and after Audio to share?

[JCZ]

Sounds like a plan! I'll be curious how much increase in volume you pick up. Losing the CAT I think makes a significant contribution.

Get before and after Audio to share?

Well.....the "before" is hearing my stereo at 80 mph.  We'll see what the "after" is, after.