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[BigLew55]

If you run long straight interstates all the time I guess it's fine, but if your gonna ride it hard, it makes no sense.....

The guys that run this set-up need more than 10-15K out of a tire.  Some of these guys would be going through 2 - 3 tires a month.  Most of the riding isn't at 20-30 mph speeds like Deal's Gap, it is on the superslab seeing how long and far they can go.  And that is it's own form of riding hard.

[Fired00d]

Back in the days before global warming we would use bias ply truck tires on the rigid framed scoots cause it was cool.

They handled so bad from the get go with the girdered front end, the back tire didn't matter much...

Id still like an early sugar bear framed one for some unknown reason

You and me both... I'd even take a new one from Sugar Bear.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[FR8TRN]

The guys that run this set-up need more than 10-15K out of a tire.  Some of these guys would be going through 2 - 3 tires a month.  Most of the riding isn't at 20-30 mph speeds like Deal's Gap, it is on the superslab seeing how long and far they can go.  And that is it's own form of riding hard.

Guess I just never saw the point....the IronButt and those coast to coast to coast rides never made much sense.  First 1000 miles in 24hrs....not that hard, I did 971 in 15hrs total....I stopped because I got where I was going, I could have slept 8hrs and still completed it if I was trying for it.  And that was with sitting down to order and eat 3 meals thru the day, not grabbing a bite while filling the tank.  CCC, I just don't get it, I've gone x-country (MD to CA and back) and even doing it in a week each way was too quick, thats a ride you really need to spend some time doing to enjoy.  I don't see it as riding hard, it's riding stupid, there is no way someone can go that long without getting tired, if your tired and riding, your asking for trouble.  I woke up at 75mph coming back thru Arkansas, it scares the hell outta ya not knowing if you were asleep for 3 minutes or 3 seconds.....I pulled off the next exit.  Not something I ever want to do again.

[BigLew55]

Guess I just never saw the point....the IronButt and those coast to coast to coast rides never made much sense.  First 1000 miles in 24hrs....not that hard, I did 971 in 15hrs total....I stopped because I got where I was going, I could have slept 8hrs and still completed it if I was trying for it.  And that was with sitting down to order and eat 3 meals thru the day, not grabbing a bite while filling the tank.  CCC, I just don't get it, I've gone x-country (MD to CA and back) and even doing it in a week each way was too quick, thats a ride you really need to spend some time doing to enjoy.  I don't see it as riding hard, it's riding stupid, there is no way someone can go that long without getting tired, if your tired and riding, your asking for trouble.  I woke up at 75mph coming back thru Arkansas, it scares the hell outta ya not knowing if you were asleep for 3 minutes or 3 seconds.....I pulled off the next exit.  Not something I ever want to do again.

Different strokes...I can't imagine why someone would want to jump out of an airplane when it's going to land in a few minutes, but it's not my place to say they shouldn't do it.

I am an IBA member, in case you're wondering, but you probably guessed that.

[49445CVO]

If I remember right the Boss Hoss comes with a car tire for the rear tire. I know the trike does but I think I remember seeing the two wheeled Boss Hoss with it too.

[spydglide]

If I remember right the Boss Hoss comes with a car tire for the rear tire. I know the trike does but I think I remember seeing the two wheeled Boss Hoss with it too.

Can't imagine it handling well with or without a car tire.  spyder

[grc]

Early Boss Hoss bikes came with a car tire on the rear out of necessity, but current ones come with a 230 Avon motorcycle tire.


Jerry

[RedDevil]

If I remember right the Boss Hoss comes with a car tire for the rear tire. I know the trike does but I think I remember seeing the two wheeled Boss Hoss with it too.

The Boss is a straightline bike, even with a motorcycle tire on it.  I've never heard anyone complain about it's ride on an Interstate, but get it on the back roads and it supposedly handles like it looks, big and gangly...   Don't know, never ridden one, and don't plan to.

[RedDevil]

Guess I just never saw the point....the IronButt and those coast to coast to coast rides never made much sense.  First 1000 miles in 24hrs....not that hard, I did 971 in 15hrs total....I stopped because I got where I was going, I could have slept 8hrs and still completed it if I was trying for it.  And that was with sitting down to order and eat 3 meals thru the day, not grabbing a bite while filling the tank.  CCC, I just don't get it, I've gone x-country (MD to CA and back) and even doing it in a week each way was too quick, thats a ride you really need to spend some time doing to enjoy.  I don't see it as riding hard, it's riding stupid, there is no way someone can go that long without getting tired, if your tired and riding, your asking for trouble.  I woke up at 75mph coming back thru Arkansas, it scares the hell outta ya not knowing if you were asleep for 3 minutes or 3 seconds.....I pulled off the next exit.  Not something I ever want to do again.

Have to agree with your FR8.  I'm a firm believer in the saying, "It's not the destination, it's the journey".  I like to take my time and enjoy scenery and ride in between.  If I need to be somewhere far away (like a thousand miles) and in a certain timeframe, I'll take the cage, because it's the destination that's more important, and I don't need to enjoy the time getting there.  I certainly wouldn't on my bike.  But that's just me.  I understand the IBA and will give them their props for doing what they do, I just don't get it. 

[spada84]

Have to agree with your FR8.  I'm a firm believer in the saying, "It's not the destination, it's the journey".  I like to take my time and enjoy scenery and ride in between.  If I need to be somewhere far away (like a thousand miles) and in a certain timeframe, I'll take the cage, because it's the destination that's more important, and I don't need to enjoy the time getting there.  I certainly wouldn't on my bike.  But that's just me.  I understand the IBA and will give them their props for doing what they do, I just don't get it. 

Personally, I see the place for both.  I don't like interstates for touring, just for getting somewhere, or to avoid a city.  I have taken 10 days to get somewhere (real touring and riding), then 2 days to get home.  I'm considering doing the HOG Route 66 tour this summer, but will have to Blast Home while the wife flys.  It's that or ship the bike.  Personally, I'd rather do the IB.

[rheiner]

I'm also one that thinks their's room to be an IBA member & a liesurely destination rider. I do both, having completed 5 Iron Butt rides last year. I do the Iron Butt rides for the challenge, knowing not too riders can ride, e.g., 5,000 miles in 5 days. Believe me, it's harder to do than you might think. Everytime I complete an extreme ride I say that's it. But something brings me back to try another. The IBA proof and documentation standards are very high, making the accomplishment more worthwhile. When I complete one of these rides I say to myself, that wasn't very fun at all, in fact, it was downright brutal. On the other hand, non IBA rides are fun taking your time, viewing scenery, and stopping along the way.

But I know one thing...I'd never put a car tire on my Harley to save a few bucks and squeeze out a few more miles. That's plain stupid, idiotic, and dumb, IMO. Being an IBA rider, EVERY ride requires a fair amount of night riding, and I've swerved more than once to miss objects in the road, some close calls, and I don't want to think what might have happened with a less maneuverable bike. If you want to put a worthwhile modification on your bike for long distance riding, put HID headlights and HID headlamps in your aux buckets. I have, and they have saved my butt many times.

[spydglide]

But I know one thing...I'd never put a car tire on my Harley to save a few bucks and squeeze out a few more miles. That's plain stupid, idiotic, and dumb, IMO. Being an IBA rider, EVERY ride requires a fair amount of night riding, and I've swerved more than once to miss objects in the road, some close calls, and I don't want to think what might have happened with a less maneuverable bike. If you want to put a worthwhile modification on your bike for long distance riding, put HID headlights and HID headlamps in your aux buckets. I have, and they have saved my butt many times.

Good points!  Which HID lamps did you use?  spyder

[rheiner]

Good points!   Which HID lamps did you use?   spyder

Xtralights for the hi & low beam ballasts & 6000k color bulbs. You need to replace the stock buckets because H4 HID bulbs won't fit in them (they are too short). I use Adjure 4 1/2 inch headlamp/ventura hwy bucket combos, and use wave cut headlamps. I've tried pie cut but don't get as good of a light pattern. Howard Messner, from Motorcycle Metal in Davie, FL, modifies the buckets & supplies wiring harnesses, relays, ballasts & 6k HIDs.

Adjure knows who he is and just sends your order right to him. I turn each light on with a separate switch, including the main headlight. I have this setup on both my CVO UCs and they are great. No buzz in the headset even though I have 4 ballasts going at times. Only downside is limited range on the CB. I'd need to shield the ballasts but I don't use my CB enough to worry about it. When I do need it, if it's not dark, I just turn off my lights.  Howard's aux bulbs are a dual H4 bulb with a 35 w halogen and HID bulb, in the adjure bucket, so you can run either (or both) bulbs. It's slick and works everytime. It's a lot of candlepower when you need it on dark roads.

[spydglide]

Xtralights for the hi & low beam ballasts & 6000k color bulbs. You need to replace the stock buckets because H4 HID bulbs won't fit in them (they are too short). I use Adjure 4 1/2 inch headlamp/ventura hwy bucket combos, and use wave cut headlamps.
 Howard's aux bulbs include are a dual bulb with a 35 w halogen and HID in the adjure bucket, so you can run either (or both) bulbs. It's slick and works everytime. It's a lot of candlepower when you need it on dark roads.

thank you.     Have you had any problems with heat from the installation?  spyder

[rheiner]

thank you.     Have you had any problems with heat from the installation?  spyder

HIDs put out less heat than halogen bulbs. Electronic ballasts don't even get warm. DO NOT mount ballasts by your fairing speaker magnets. I went through several ballasts 'til I figured that out.