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[Shotgun]

I plan on replacing my exaust with a Rinehart set up.  Which is best, "True Duals" or "Slip-ons" only?  I will be installing a SERT with this as well.

Thanks,
Shotgun

[grc]

I plan on replacing my exaust with a Rinehart set up.

[Fired00d]

I plan on replacing my exaust with a Rinehart set up.

[grc]

Fired00d,

Rinehart now makes slip-ons as well:  http://www.jpcycles.com/productgroup.aspx?GID=0C3AC3DF-AA59-469E-BA77-E1F54BCC3DDC    

Jerry

[grc]

Looks like a decent price for anyone looking for Rinehart True Duals - $630, free shipping, Eastern Performance in Maryland    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RINEHART-HARLEY-EXHAUST-TRUE-DUALS-TOURING-40-AVAILABLE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35573QQitemZ4604143061QQrdZ1

[J.J.]

I ordered my Rineharts from cyborg cylcle delivered for $627.00.  Good people to deal with.
http://www.cyborgcycles.com/cycsak.htm

[Fired00d]

Fired00d,

Rinehart now makes slip-ons as well:

[BobD]

Everybody has an opinion. That's what's so great about our "family". Two years ago I had to have Rinehart

[GC_Super]

ezrider, welcome to the site.  I agree with you on a lot of points. I too had Rineharts at one point, and also tried the so called quiet baffles, even tried packing to quieten them down a little, but eventually sold them. It wasn't just the sound, they never did "feel" just right to me. I replaced them with V&H duals, so I could use my choice of muffler.  So, now, here I sit with the same decision as you. New Bike coming, what to do?  I was extremely happy with the V&H duals.  As you mentioned, duals certainly look good, and with the right muffler, sound good also. And besides the cool looks, they are also cool, as in cool to the legs. I'm in TX where that's important.  So, my final choice is V&H duals w/ V&H classic slip ons. No biggie if I don't like the mufflers, I've been known to change mufflers more frequently than underwear.  

[jdracing]

This is a good and timely thread in connection with the SEU, since lots are taking delivery of their new CVOs and are facing the same decision.

[FR8TRN]

Hey ezrider4, welcome to the site, lots of good info here.  As for the Rhinehart/Freedom thing, they are both made by Bub, Freedom claims "technical" changes, which are probably the baffle and I know they have a silver vs. black cap on the end.  Other than that, they look to be identical.

Yeah HD engineers designed the stock setup (I guess), but they sure crack alot of x-over pipes, mine was on for about 6500 miles, and it's cracked, my '04 Ultra was on for maybe 2000 miles, and it was cracked also.

I like the sound of the True Duals, otherwise my left ear gets jealous.   I put Bassani's on my '04 Ultra, loved the pipes, hated the heat shields, if they'd redesign the shields I'd probably buy em again.  Put the V&H on the SE, love em, easy to install and one piece shields all the way to the mufflers.

[BobD]

I've been thinking quite a bit about the question facing so many of you - using slip-ons with the factory cross-overs or going with true-duals. Knowing the MoCo is a manufacturer in the business of making money and answering to stock holders... I would think they would carefully analyze every aspect of their manufacturing design and processes as well as protect their customers satisfaction with their product. I also work for a major manufacturer. I know our most expensive manufacturing operations are welding and assembly. So, if you were HD MoCo designing an engine/exhaust package, what would you do? Go with the least expensive manufacturing costs or opt for the optimal performance design. I submit that they've done their homework as all good engineers should (I also know they rely on independent design experts as a resource) and determined that for many reasons (combustion back pressure, maximum fuel utilization, optimal power, emissions, etc.) a cross-over design exhaust optimizes the performance of the V-Twin engine design. I'm sure they were under pressure from the bean counters to reduce costs but they've stood firm. A true-dual design requires far less welding and is certainly simpler to assemble all of which would result in reduced manufacturing costs. But, for some reason they've opted to retain the more costly cross-over design. Can we assume it's driven by knowing the advantages this design offers? If the true-dual design was so great don't you think HD would offer it as an aftermarket option? And now we as enthusiasts trust joe blow pipe bender or a recent graduate of the motorcycle institute to tell us what's best for our CVO. Come on guys, I rest my case.

[spydglide]

Hey ezrider4, I totally agree with you except for one thing that you omitted:  Nothing looks as cool on a Dresser as TrueDuals !  8-)  I rest my case!  Har!  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] spyder

[BobD]

spydglide, I agree 100%. Looking cool is a major part of what we do. It's important to admit it rather than just casting blame on the MoCo for not supporting the true-dual fixation going around right now.

[Ceej]

I read somewhere that it has to do with meeting emmisions. One may also say that the Moco knows a true 2-1 is the best bet and two pipes is for style thus a crossover. Forget the dressers - what about the rest of the models?