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[DOC.COFFIN]

Call it my ignorance if you will, but I was surprised that the Dyno report of my '11 FLHXSE2 CVO with Fullsac Headers, SERT, and 4" RH slip-ons showed that I was still missing the Century Club Benchmark for HP and TQ...so perhaps cams are the next mod to get over that hump.

[Black Diamond]

Call it my ignorance if you will, but I was surprised that the Dyno report of my '11 FLHXSE2 CVO with Fullsac Headers, SERT, and 4" RH slip-ons showed that I was still missing the Century Club Benchmark for HP and TQ...so perhaps cams are the next mod to get over that hump.

That is a little low on the torque side from what has been posted here. I got 108 tq / 95 hp with X pipe, Fullsac 2" baffles, Ventilator, and TTS. Steve @ Fullsac said this was the usual result.  I'd drop him a call. Good tuner?

[FLHXSE2]

What's the package price for the Fulsac kit?

[Black Diamond]

What's the package price for the Fulsac kit?

X pipe, baffles, TTS tuner was around $900 - $950 best I can recall.

JW

[FLHXSE2]

Thanks!

[Badger Mike]

Interesting comment from the lead tech at my dealer today.  I asked him about installing cams without any headwork and he said that it wouldn't make any noticable difference on the bike.  I was looking to get a little more torque out of the motor, now I'm a bit discouraged

[samule]

That 'tech' sounds like a dumbass...Way to many people have done cams w/o head work and got great results

[Firefly]

Interesting comment from the lead tech at my dealer today.  I asked him about installing cams without any headwork and he said that it wouldn't make any noticable difference on the bike.  I was looking to get a little more torque out of the motor, now I'm a bit discouraged

I would go see Shane @ Shanedrive's. His shop is on Water St. in Sauk City. I've been in talks with him in regards to some work on mine. He is VERY reasonable, and has a good handle on tuning. He assured me that installing cams, tuner, and exhaust would easily net 100 h.p.

[Badger Mike]

Thanks Firefly, I've been using Will Smith @ Pokerville Ironworks and have been very happy.  I think I'll give your guy a call though and talk to him.  There's lots of good advise here and the set up that JCZ and H-D Dude have talked about sounds like a good choice. 

I see you've got a "Spiced Rum", did you get it @ Sauk?

[sherrmann4]

Badger Mike.

I am by no means an expert on heads or cams.  So, I worked out a plan with the service guy at the Appleton Harley store; they've done great work for me so far.

Had my heads sent to Automotive Machine & Supply out of Fort Worth, TX.  You can read up on the website exactly what they do for $600.  We selected the Woods TW7H cam; which you will find a lot of info here on. Both good and bad.  Waiting for warmer weather for the final tune.  I had the D&D Boss Fat Cat and race tuner installed last summer and had very good numbers before i had the heads ported and added the cam this winter.

Lastly, had my heads diamond cut by Diamond Heads.  Get the show cut.

Good luck.

[Firefly]

Thanks Firefly, I've been using Will Smith @ Pokerville Ironworks and have been very happy.  I think I'll give your guy a call though and talk to him.  There's lots of good advise here and the set up that JCZ and H-D Dude have talked about sounds like a good choice. 

I see you've got a "Spiced Rum", did you get it @ Sauk?

Yes, I did get it in Sauk. I went there to buy a black SG, and couldn't resist. I've heard good things from Pokerville as well.

[Badger Mike]

Has anyone tried the S&S gear drive cams?  I've been told there is a significant difference between these and just dropping in different cams on a 110.

[JCZ]

Interesting comment from the lead tech at my dealer today.  I asked him about installing cams without any headwork and he said that it wouldn't make any noticable difference on the bike.  I was looking to get a little more torque out of the motor, now I'm a bit discouraged

I'd start looking for someplace else to get my work done....cause he knows not from where he speaks.  My bike does not have any headwork (has never had the heads off!) and it pumps 106 hp and 111 tq.  and smooth, perfect arch on the power band.  It's the first dyno sheet posted in this thread....  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=44545.msg674990#msg674990

[JZ3]

X2....followed JCZ's/Jim's lead on this with the Fueling 574 cams.  Fullsac x-pipe and 2.25 cores, Harley Supertuner. 109hp/109tq...NO HEADWORK! No doubt you can get more hp/tq through countless options...but pound for the penny you get the max performance improvement to this engine with the least amount of dollars. After this mod and improvement gains the next 15-20 hp/tq gains will cost you significantly more $$$ than the first 15-20(IMO).

[harris48cars]

Any internal combustion engine will benefit from head work. I don't care if it's a lawn mower. If you are satisfied with cams only or that's all you can afford then good for you. Head work doesn't have to be expensive. $300 if you talk to the right person. I've had two sets done and for me I felt like that was the right call. Seems like a few people are making it sound like head work is a waste. Fair enough. On the other hand, tearing into an engine for the purposes of gaining more performance and then not going that little extra, seem like a waste to me.
 Gary