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Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« on: March 26, 2010, 07:56:43 AM »

I have a SESG and within 10-15 secs after starting the bike it goes from around 1000RPM to 2000RPM at idle.  This usually last about the first few minutes and it doesn't matter if the bike is warm or not.  Never had this issue with the wifes '07 Road King or my '03 standard.  Any thoughts or comments?
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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2010, 08:36:20 AM »

I have a SESG and within 10-15 secs after starting the bike it goes from around 1000RPM to 2000RPM at idle.  This usually last about the first few minutes and it doesn't matter if the bike is warm or not.  Never had this issue with the wifes '07 Road King or my '03 standard.  Any thoughts or comments?

My thought: this is not normal.  Could be the electronic throttle control idle reset issue, could be a vacuum leak, could be a flaky idle air control valve, etc.  In other words, need to have a proper diagnosis done and the problem corrected.  You can try the idle reset procedure yourself, if that doesn't help have your dealer fix it.  To reset/relearn the proper idle position with the ETC, leave the run/stop switch on and cycle the ignition switch on and off four times, waiting ten full seconds after keying off between cycles, to relearn zero TGS position.


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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 01:08:33 PM »

Greetings,

This could just be horse poopy but I do seem to recall a similar issue being written about and the problem was using the handle bar switch to turn off the engine while your hand was still on the throttle.  Did something to effect the ecm or throttle by wire setting.  The fix, as I recall was to always turn the bike off with the keyed switch and use your right hand to do so.  This of course assures that you have let go of the throttle.

Again I just recall reading this some where and it is not from personal experience.  So do with it as you see fit.  Stranger ideas than this have fixed many a problem on this forum.  Or it could just be dog squeezings.

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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 01:35:14 PM »

Suggestion would be to start bike and get it idling the way you want it and then shut it off with the main ON/OFF switch not the kill switch. Memory will retain that setting and it should start up normally and idle normally.
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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 09:30:05 PM »

Greetings,

This could just be horse poopy but I do seem to recall a similar issue being written about and the problem was using the handle bar switch to turn off the engine while your hand was still on the throttle.  Did something to effect the ecm or throttle by wire setting.  The fix, as I recall was to always turn the bike off with the keyed switch and use your right hand to do so.  This of course assures that you have let go of the throttle.

Again I just recall reading this some where and it is not from personal experience.  So do with it as you see fit.  Stranger ideas than this have fixed many a problem on this forum.  Or it could just be dog squeezings.

SteveM
It ai'nt dog squeezins, always turn it off with the console switxh not the kill switch, went thru this on the '08 Ultra many times, and it went away when I changed my kill pattern (I love sayin kill pattern).
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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 10:37:59 PM »

It ai'nt dog squeezins, always turn it off with the console switxh not the kill switch, went thru this on the '08 Ultra many times, and it went away when I changed my kill pattern (I love sayin kill pattern).
Different vehicle, but I just blew a head gasket on a new cub cadet, dealer said because I turned the throttle all the way down at shut off and  too much heat built up in the motor and fried the head gasket.  I think it is a cover up for $hitty work myself.
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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2010, 08:56:36 AM »

Different vehicle, but I just blew a head gasket on a new cub cadet, dealer said because I turned the throttle all the way down at shut off and  too much heat built up in the motor and fried the head gasket.  I think it is a cover up for $hitty work myself.

I not only think you're correct, I know that BS from your dealer is just that, BS.  What would he prefer you do, run it at wide open throttle and then hit the kill switch?  Yeah, that's exactly how it's supposed to be done (NOT).  See if that guy used to work for H-D, sounds like some of the chit I hear at Harley shops.


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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2010, 09:51:40 AM »

Different vehicle, but I just blew a head gasket on a new cub cadet, dealer said because I turned the throttle all the way down at shut off and  too much heat built up in the motor and fried the head gasket.  I think it is a cover up for $hitty work myself.

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Re: Start-Up and Idleing on the 110CI
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2010, 12:27:40 PM »

Different vehicle, but I just blew a head gasket on a new cub cadet, dealer said because I turned the throttle all the way down at shut off and  too much heat built up in the motor and fried the head gasket.  I think it is a cover up for $hitty work myself.
Actually, in most air cooled, lawn and garden equipment there are fan blades either surrounding the pull starter coil, on top of the engine or with a blower, the blower blades themselves. After running full throttle it is very important to idle down for 30 seconds before shutting down as heat build up does occur and and any gasket-ed interface is likely to have problems.  It is especially evedent in 2 stroke motors running 10K - 14K RPM. As a Landscape contractor for 25  years, this was always a problem for me as my employees forgot to idle down too many times.
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