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[worshipduder]

OK, I have the power duals and High Outputs. I know a BUNCH of you have the same. love em except for one thing. the left slip-on drips water, blows out COLD air. and sweats around the end of the pipe. Whats up with that? Slamr says V&H offers no explanation. Again I ask, whats up with that?

Chime in guys, we would love to get this resolved!

mj

[Sea Biscuit]

I've read a few posts about this issue...don't know if this helps you but I have the Vance and Hines Power Duals with stock mufflers and Fullsac 1.75" baffles and I have none of those issues (i.e. no "drips", no "sweats", no "cold air" from the left muffler). Soooo...since we both have the same head pipe, could it be something to do with the High Output mufflers design, going from approx. 4" from where it attaches to the head pipe to 4.5" out the back?

Just trying to help.

[CVOBros2]

I just installed the V&H Hi-Output slip-ons last night.  I couldn't get the front (stock) heat shield to tuck inside the right slip-on.  I did on the left side though, I loosened the allen bolts on the "cone" at the front of the slip-ons and got the left side heat shield to go inside the cone.  Right side I just couldn't get that way.  Also left slip-on the V&H Logo is top-dead-center and the right one is slightly off center toward the right side bag, not far off, only a few degrees but not TDC like the left side. 


I do like the sound though, low deep rumble, louder but not too loud.  Still hear the stereo but can hear the bike now for sure.

I haven't noticed the water but I have only rode two short rides.  Last night and this morning.  I have noticed them smoking after stopping and continuing to smoke for quite a while after the bike is shut off, (and smelling funky too.   )  They also discolor when warm but when they cool off they appear fine.     

[HD4CPA]

Hi MJ,

I think it's just normal water condensation when the bike/pipes are cold from combustion.  Any water vapor would flow out the left side since a liquid would flow to the lowest point.  The V&H power duals header pipes are low on the left side after the cross over connection.  The factory mufflers were not flow through so you probably wouldn't notice and changed them shortly after purchase.  I haven't noticed water from my setup but it does seem to have a stronger water vapor from the left and I've seen that on other bikes too.

Mike

[slamr]

I spoke to a friend today that has on 09 Street Glide.  He has stock head pipe, (no CAT) and slip-ons, (not sure of the brand but not V&H).  He started telling me about the condensation that comes out his left pipe when the motor is cold and first started.  He wasn't sure how long it's been doing it but he just noticed it this Spring.  Seems the issue isn't just related to V&H pipes.  Maybe it's overall temp related?  The northeast is still cool. . . .  BTW, point of clarification:  The exhaust coming from the left pipe is noticeable warmer than the right pipe.  The difference can be felt almost immediately after starting.  After a ride, the left slip-on is extremely hot while the right side is moderately hot.  Still thinking the smaller cross-over pipe may cause this?  Is this characteristic of all 2-1-2 systems.  Carefully feel yours the next time you ride.  Regardless, my bike runs like a monster with the exhaust system change and no tuner.  I'm loving it!  

[worshipduder]

I've read a few posts about this issue...don't know if this helps you but I have the Vance and Hines Power Duals with stock mufflers and Fullsac 1.75" baffles and I have none of those issues (i.e. no "drips", no "sweats", no "cold air" from the left muffler). Soooo...since we both have the same head pipe, could it be something to do with the High Output mufflers design, going from approx. 4" from where it attaches to the head pipe to 4.5" out the back?

Just trying to help.

thats a great Q Sea Biscuit. one I dont have an answer for:(

[worshipduder]

I just installed the V&H Hi-Output slip-ons last night.  I couldn't get the front (stock) heat shield to tuck inside the right slip-on.  I did on the left side though, I loosened the allen bolts on the "cone" at the front of the slip-ons and got the left side heat shield to go inside the cone.  Right side I just couldn't get that way.  Also left slip-on the V&H Logo is top-dead-center and the right one is slightly off center toward the right side bag, not far off, only a few degrees but not TDC like the left side. 


I do like the sound though, low deep rumble, louder but not too loud.  Still hear the stereo but can hear the bike now for sure.

I haven't noticed the water but I have only rode two short rides.  Last night and this morning.  I have noticed them smoking after stopping and continuing to smoke for quite a while after the bike is shut off, (and smelling funky too.   )  They also discolor when warm but when they cool off they appear fine.     

i believe your heat shield is on backwards. one side has a slight curve, the other straight. the curved side slides into the x

[worshipduder]

Hi MJ,

I think it's just normal water condensation when the bike/pipes are cold from combustion.  Any water vapor would flow out the left side since a liquid would flow to the lowest point.  The V&H power duals header pipes are low on the left side after the cross over connection.  The factory mufflers were not flow through so you probably wouldn't notice and changed them shortly after purchase.  I haven't noticed water from my setup but it does seem to have a stronger water vapor from the left and I've seen that on other bikes too.

Mike

yup, I had a mechanic say the same thing

[Hawg]

I read this on the form so I checked and I too found the exhaust from the left muffler is hot and the right is cold on start up, I am running Power Dual head pipe and HO slip-ons with a SERT, my 1500 km service was done yesterday, had them fine tune the Sert as the bike was not starting quite the same after the last fine tuning, after my 230 km ride home, I noticed the left muffler now is black, the right is clean. What's up with that, it wasn't like that before they "fine tuned it"

[worshipduder]

r u sure? maybe you just didnt notice it? i clean my left side every ride so it doesnt look so obvious:(

[Hawg]

r u sure? maybe you just didnt notice it? i clean my left side every ride so it doesnt look so obvious:(

is this normal?

[worshipduder]

so far, anyone with power duals and hi outputs.

someone chime in if they have this set up and DONT have this problem

[Hawg]

i would think this is indicating  too rich on the af set up? 

[slamr]

When my pipes were first installed the dealer also tuned with the SERT.  My left pipe was pitch black after only 20 ~ 25 miles.  The left pipe smoked when first started and the exhaust smell was strong enough to knock you out!  The bike also had no power below 2500 RPM and seemed to "load-up" after decelerating.  It felt like the bike was in limp mode until 2000 ~ 2200 RPM.  When I bitched at the dealer and told them of the problems, (I also told them it was too rich) I returned the bike.   They restored the tune to stock and added a fuel pack.  It dynoed at 89 HP and 106 ft/lbs.  I told them I didn't want the fuel pack, and that many on this forum were just doing the pipes with no tune, so they removed it.  They then told me it was at 86 HP and 112 ft/lbs.  All I know is that the bike is a good step-up from stock with just the pipes and no tune.  I cleaned the left pipe.  It no longer smokes when first started and there is little if any exhaust smell.  It's no longer turning black and the bike seems very strong throughout the gears/RPM  range.  Today it was 67 when I first started the bike.  There was a very small amount of condensation from the left pipe but not nearly as much as when the temps were in the 50's or low 60's.  When the engine gets warm (in 80 degree weather) the bike pops once or twice when decelerating.  At this point I'm leaving the setup as-is until I find a good tuner that I know can do a proper tune.  BTW, the dealer finally admitted to me that his service guys weren't familiar with the SERT.  They train later this year. . . .  I'm thinking that if others check, they'll see condensation from their exhaust (left or right depending on their setup) and the left exhaust will be warmer if they have a similar setup to the V&H 2-1-2.         

[RedDevil]

I wonder if it isn't something to do with the hi-output slippons.  I have the power duals and the V&H basic slippons and I don't have a condensation issue nor do I have one pipe darker than the other inside.  They both are colored the same.  Interesting, but the issues seem to be with the Hi-Outputs and not related to the power duals.