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[tazmun]

So I call one of our local MoCo dealers, and ask what a tune will cost on an 06 CVO Ultra.
I explain to them I have the SERT I bought with the bike and they tell me 4 hours.
I question the time and they say, seeing as the did not do the original tune, they
will have to manually extract all the previous data, and start from scratch.
Do I smell fish, or are they correct?

[aclass]

There will be some guys in here that know for absolutely sure but if you're using the SERT(race tuner) which was before the SEST(super tuner or pro tuner) then you can extract the file and save it.  But with the new Pro tuner, you cant extract the file from the tuner,  you have to have it in electronic storage of some kind.

Good luck

[tazmun]

There will be some guys in here that know for absolutely sure but if you're using the SERT(race tuner) which was before the SEST(super tuner or pro tuner) then you can extract the file and save it.  But with the new Pro tuner, you cant extract the file from the tuner,  you have to have it in electronic storage of some kind.

Good luck

  I was thinking, that you run it on the dyno, and chanhe what you want and run it again.
Why would you want to save it, or keep what was in there?

[Fired00d]

There will be some guys in here that know for absolutely sure but if you're using the SERT(race tuner) which was before the SEST(super tuner or pro tuner) then you can extract the file and save it.  But with the new Pro tuner, you cant extract the file from the tuner,  you have to have it in electronic storage of some kind.

Good luck

I believe it is the same with the SERT... you can't extract it from the bike it would have to be saved to some other media when it was created. I have a SERT and had some adjustments made to my tune last year and they had to use a saved file of my original tune to make the adjustments otherwise they would have to start from scratch.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

  I was thinking, that you run it on the dyno, and chanhe what you want and run it again.
Why would you want to save it, or keep what was in there?

If it has already been tuned once that would be a better starting point then ground zero and what will have to be done if you don't have a copy (file) of the previous tune.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[grc]

So I call one of our local MoCo dealers, and ask what a tune will cost on an 06 CVO Ultra.
I explain to them I have the SERT I bought with the bike and they tell me 4 hours.
I question the time and they say, seeing as the did not do the original tune, they
will have to manually extract all the previous data, and start from scratch.
Do I smell fish, or are they correct?

I think you will find that Fired00d is correct, the way the SERT program was originally set up you can't retrieve the map from the ECM.  Do you have a copy of the map you are running right now on a disk or thumb drive perhaps? 

Four hours seems decent.  The SERT has a reputation for being the most time consuming of the various software packages in use these days, and a lot of folks have indicated as much as six hours required for a good tune using the SERT.  Before you sign on the dotted line, you need to discuss the issue of them giving you a copy of the map on disk so you don't go through this again in the future.  Some places won't give out copies of the maps they create, and it's best to know that before you agree to pay them to tune the bike.  I understand why some tuners don't give out copies (cuts into their business if folks start sharing maps instead of paying them for a custom tune), but I think I'd have to insist that since I'm paying for it I want a copy. 


Jerry

[Twolanerider]

If it has already been tuned once that would be a better starting point then ground zero and what will have to be done if you don't have a copy (file) of the previous tune.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Yes.  If.....

If the tuning effort that is the baseline being worked from is actually good.  Unfortunately that's not always a given.