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« on: June 13, 2010, 07:47:59 AM »

I am going to Sturgis for the first time and need a good route from Atlanta to hot springs where we are staying, any help would be great.
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 12:36:58 PM »

Can't give much help on the best route, but live in the Black Hills and can give some unsolicited advice.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but it's intention is just to help make sure you get home alive and well.

Don't ride impared in any way in the Black Hills, even if it's just a case of too little sleep. It's a madhouse with so many bikers here during Sturgis and tourism is way up already this year which suggests lots more folks will be here during Sturgis as well. Some areas of the Black Hills have really tight curves, so know your limits and stay within them. I tend to stay home during the rally, but almost every trip out I encounter bikes and riders who went off the curve or hit a deer, etc.

Speed limits are usually just reccomendations to those who are expierenced riders, but there is so much wildlife in the Hills that I reccomend 5 below all speed limits and always be prepared to stop. If you see deer, be prepared to stop as they often just stand and stare at you until the last possible moment, then charge acroos in front of you at the last second. I usually stop and let them cross. Same with turkey, they will fly at the last moment and hitting a 50 pound bird at chest level is not an enjoyable expierence.

That about covers wildlife and riding style, but narrow curvy roads have another threat as well. Riders who have partied too hard and are riding impaired in one way or another are a hazzard. Don't be surprised if you encounter another bike over the centerline in your lane on a curve or passsing a car when they clearly should not. Coming around a curve in the Custer area it is not uncommon to have a 2000 pound bison standing in the middle of the road.

A threat that I think is pretty much new this year is that vacationers from as far away as Florida are renting RVs and coming here in droves. None of them have ever driven a large vehicle and don't seem to know where their right side is in relation to the roadside. I have encountered them multiple times so far this year already. Usually both rear wheels on the left side are completely over the centerline on curves. That puts a two to three foot wide obstacle in your lane.

I am an ambulance board member for a town in the central hills, so I could give you some really ugly stories, but my intention is not to scare the hell out of you. If you ride safe you will find that the Black hills is some of the best riding in the US. So, have fun, but stay safe cause I will hear about it if you don't...

When in towns, be sure to stop by fire and ambulance services and say hello. These are the folks that will likely save your life if you need their help. They saved mine.

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Re: sturgis
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2010, 02:29:02 PM »

Thank you for the advice, The good thing is I don't drink, but I will be careful of others who do and who don't pay attention, we are only going through sturgis just for one day the rest will be to ride the area and then heading home a different way then we came, we will be in hot springs just for 2 days before we head back home, we just want to get the t-shirt and say been there done that. we are looking forward to seeing the sites more then anything.
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2010, 03:25:30 PM »

We are going there for the first time as well, group of seven on H. O. G. Fly & Rides from Denver. Any suggestions for an itinerary of rides/tours not to miss?? We have bought tickets to the Legends Ride already.

Thanx in advance for any help!

Cheers,
Louis

PS: Any plans for a CVO get together?
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2010, 03:34:15 PM »

We are going there for the first time as well, group of seven on H. O. G. Fly & Rides from Denver. Any suggestions for an itinerary of rides/tours not to miss?? We have bought tickets to the Legends Ride already.

Thanx in advance for any help!

Cheers,
Louis

PS: Any plans for a CVO get together?



Great idea .....how about the deck at either the stockade bar or Franklin hotel in Deadwood on Tues or Weds or Thursday afternoonfun
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2010, 03:51:41 PM »

My suggestion is that if you are going to go through South Dakota east to west or west to east that you stay off I-90. The tourist traffic and road construction make for a less than enjoyable experience. If you come through Sioux City, get off on Highway 50 just east of Vermillion. The section from I-29 over to Yankton is nice 4 lane (I grew up in Yankton so I know this). Take Hwy 52 going west out of Yankton by Lewis & Clark Lake. Beautiful bluffs on the Nebraska side. Stop at Gavin's Point Dam if you have time, great vacation location, great camping if you want to spend the night there. There are over 1,400 State and Federal asphalt pad campsites there with firewood, showers and lots of nice amenities. Continue up Hwy 52 until it intersects with Hwy 50 again. Go west through Tabor, Tyndall, Avon, Wagner, Lake Andes and Geddes. None of these towns are over 2K people but there is gas and nice homey restaurants if you get hungry. Stay on Hwy 50 going north out of Geddes until it intersects with Hwy 44. Go West on Hwy 44 through Platte and Winner. The Missouri River Valley west of Platte is gorgeous hilly curvy terrain, well worth the trip! Transition from Hwy 44 to Hwy 18 as you go west of Winner and go into Mission. This is on one of the SD Indian reservation towns and is a unique place to cruise through. No danger, just an opportunity to see something you won't see every day.  That stretch of road from Winner to Mission is new smooth concrete as well so it's a great ride. Turn north on Hwy 83 just west of Mission and go north to White River. Be sure to get fuel in Mission or White River as you're getting out into no mans land here. Pick up Hwy 44 west again and go west and north to Interior. You're now in the Badlands. Outstanding views and great riding. If you have time, go west on Hwy 240 up to Wall. Speed limit in the badlands is 45 and there will be a lot of tourist traffic but the views are some of the best on earth. If you don't have 90 minutes, go east and north on Hwy 240 up to I-90 and blaze on into the Black Hills. A stop at Wall to see Wall Drug is highly recommended if you have never seen it.

This route works going either way. Give yourself time to enjoy the trip. Figure 50-60 MPH average and you should be fine. You'll be out in the open a lot so you can put the coals to it but there are towns to slow down for and views you'll want to stop and take in so it's not a balls out ride.

Being a native South Dakotan, I am quite proud of many of the beautiful sites to see in the state. Too many people speed east and west on I-90 and miss much of the beauty just 40-50 miles south. I have ridden to Sturgis both ways since I got my Wide Glide 3 years ago and it is a great trip! Agree completely with what GStreetGlide says about riding in the Hills. We stay in Hill City to get away from some of the madness that happens in Sturgis. We go there and spend a day looking at the bikes, vendors and other sites but it's a little too crazy for most of us after dark. Don't even recommend riding in the Hills after dark unless you are going up the the lighting ceremony at Rushmore, which is highly recommended!


Hope you have a safe and enjoyable trip! I'll be trying to put together a CVO gathering in the Hills again this year. Last year HD did one but we had already left for home.
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2010, 05:51:22 AM »

me and 2 sons going to be there 10 yr old be riding with me 27 old be riding his bike  leaving Charlotte going to museum then  to sturgis really staying in sundance Wyoming 2 week trip should be fun any information would be great  good place to eat ????
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 11:26:03 AM »

Coming around a curve in the Custer area it is not uncommon to have a 2000 pound bison standing in the middle of the road.

 If you ride safe you will find that the Black hills is some of the best riding in the US. So, have fun, but stay safe cause I will hear about it if you don't...


JB

I had just that happen to me in Custer in 2005.  I think I managed to stop about 3 feet before I hit them, it was a heard of ten or more crossing the road.

I agree, the riding out there is great, I love the badlands, Needles, and so many other back roads.

Wife and I are riding out to be there from Aug 11 thru the 15th, then we are headed to Red Lodge to do bear tooth.
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Re: sturgis
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 06:19:13 PM »

Will be going there again myself, '93 was the last ride out there. Buddy clipped a deer in Wyoming that year on the I-90. Always be on the look out for wild life.
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2010, 10:57:38 AM »

Will be going there again myself, '93 was the last ride out there. Buddy clipped a deer in Wyoming that year on the I-90. Always be on the look out for wild life.

You would think you could see a deer crossing an Interstate from quite a distance. That's not always the case. I have lived here about 5 years and have many close calls on the bike. Last year, a big doe came up outta a ditch on a four lane. There was with as much visability as the I-90. Amazingly, there was no way I could miss her as she came up full speed into my driver's door.  I was an agressive rider up until that happened. As I pulled over and got out to look at the damage to my truck, all I could think was Holy Crap, if I had been on the bike I would have been dead. Now I ride 5 below the speed limits because even in those nice tight racetrack style twisties, you never know when one is gonna target you. I have one friend who rides a bicycle every day. Coming down the hill from Mt Rushmore a deer came up the slope and took him out. He woke up in the ditch with a trashed bicycle and a broken shoulder.

Reading the newspaper after that I saw a statistic that was hard to grasp. If you live in South Dakota, chances of hitting a deer is 25%. That's one in four folks. Ride safe...

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Re: sturgis
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2010, 12:19:12 AM »

Louis, been talking about fly and ride from Denver for years would love to hear about your ride when you get back.  Maybe what I need to get me off my ass and make me book it, next year
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