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[ultrafxr]

When I got my '07 cuse with the 6 speed the first thing I noticed is that 1st gear was higher than my previous bikes.  Made no sense to me since I now have an additional gear for highway cruising and I guess the moco figured out its dumb decision since I know they changed it a couple years later.  And I know some have changed sprockets to lower the ratio but I don't want to go to the trouble and expense of that.  

When riding two-up and especially with the trailer behind I have to keep the clutch in the friction zone for what seems like an inordinate amount of time to get the bike launched.  In fact another rider commented on this.  The clutch does not appear to be slipping.  Once underway everything is perfectly normal.  It is just getting going from a stop requires this.

So is this just the way it is with this tranny and stock ratios or since I have 67k on it would new clutch plates help or would a different clutch entirely help me get the bike launched quicker and easier?

[Gecko]

Nope, it's the gearing.  And it's why I'm putting more thought into changing to a Baker DD7 - same high gear ratio, more liveable in the lower gears.  Shuddering away from stops two-up on hills last weekend pretty much decided it.  Too bad because I like everything else about the stock gearbox and don't want to give up the low highway rpm.  Add it to the list of expensive things one has to do to fix the '07s.

[ultrafxr]

Nope, it's the gearing.  And it's why I'm putting more thought into changing to a Baker DD7 - same high gear ratio, more liveable in the lower gears.  Shuddering away from stops two-up on hills last weekend pretty much decided it.  Too bad because I like everything else about the stock gearbox and don't want to give up the low highway rpm.  Add it to the list of expensive things one has to do to fix the '07s.

I hear 'ya.  I pretty much concluded the same thing but hope springs eternal.  Sure don't want to spring the bucks for a complete tranny.  May give some thought to changing the sprocket as others have.  If you do go the DD7 route let me know how it works for you please.

[Gecko]

Will do.  I have a list of things I plan to do after getting back from Sturgis.  Being up there usually triggers a bike re-build.  I may drop down to a 31-tooth front pulley too.  Baker says that's only 3% lower so it won't hurt the highway rpm much and give a little more off-the-line ooomph.  Eventually I will get this thing to where it should have come from the factory.

[Rooster]

Will do.  I have a list of things I plan to do after getting back from Sturgis.  Being up there usually triggers a bike re-build.  I may drop down to a 31-tooth front pulley too.  Baker says that's only 3% lower so it won't hurt the highway rpm much and give a little more off-the-line ooomph.  Eventually I will get this thing to where it should have come from the factory.

I think you are on the right track. I had 30t for a short time and found just a little to much but one toothe change should put you just right. Good luck and let us know. I know what Jerry is saying as the first gear take off especially with a passenger is heavy handed on the clutch starting off. If you don't have a passenger no problem but with is totally different.

[ultrafxr]

I think you are on the right track. I had 30t for a short time and found just a little to much but one toothe change should put you just right. Good luck and let us know. I know what Jerry is saying as the first gear take off especially with a passenger is heavy handed on the clutch starting off. If you don't have a passenger no problem but with is totally different.

Not even too terribly bad with just a passenger.  But add the passenger and the trailer and look out.  Getting launched is a test of wills.  So far I'm winning!

[Trapperdog]

With 67K, 2 up, and pulling a trailer you may be in need of a new clutch anyway. At 50K on the bike and 10K on the new Rivera clutch I was experiencing the same problem your are talking about. I do pull a trailer sometimes but I had burnt out the 4 center plates mostly from practicing slow cone maneuvers which are not conducive to a Rivera clutch.

[Rooster]

Not even too terribly bad with just a passenger.  But add the passenger and the trailer and look out.  Getting launched is a test of wills.  So far I'm winning!

That is what I meant Jerry, One person and the trailer not bad but add the passenger and trailer big difference. The old single puck brakes were a bit of a challenge stopping riding 2-up and pulling a tent trailer. Worse yet stopped on a gravel hill and got dragged backwards about 25 feet before stopped. Trailer loaded was about 475lbs.