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Re: HD Doesn't Do Much to Protect CVO Features
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 05:40:52 PM »

The original concept of CVO's was to take items from existing P&A book and have them pre-installed on bikes and offering them for sale. The fact that so many of these items still remain for sale to anyone doesn't surprise me at all as it was the intent to sell more of these items after the public was able to see bikes accesorized w/them. :nixweiss:

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Your comment is what I recall also about the CVO program.  I also found this link  http://www.harleydavidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/CVOs/2008/2008_cvo.jsp    that is ostensibly entitled 'CVO History'.  Written in 2008, it states in part that "Each CVO model features unique paint schemes and accessories…"   Further in this 'CVO History’:  “It’s a whole new level of customization, nearly impossible to duplicate on a standard bike, boasting accessories that can’t be purchased anywhere else.”   I suppose a lawyer would argue the semantics of 'nearly impossible'.  However, I think that currently it would be difficult, and financial folly, to turn a standard Road King into an FLHSE4.  And H-D cannot control the availability of genuine/unique CVO parts & accessories that show up on eBay, Craigslist, et.al.  However, any successful clone of a CVO model would require the use of the H-D accessories catalogue, locating the other unique items to include the 110" motor in the correct powdercoating and the appropriate CVO tin.  And even then, it would be the difference between a 'numbers matching' 1958 Corvette and one thrown together with parts/components found all over the world by somebody other than General Motors.  In other words, a very expensive 'wannabe'!   So, I don't feel betrayed when somebody puts a pair of sidewinder wheels, and a fat boy fender on their standard Road King. 
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Re: HD Doesn't Do Much to Protect CVO Features
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2010, 09:19:11 AM »

In my opinion of my CVO purchase I bought a Harley that already came with all the chrome bells and whitsles and big engine installed hence less money and less work after the fact the only mods left are bars and and exhaust which i have purchased.
Now If I had bought a standard harley ultra and put all the stuff and big engine I would have spent more money in the end.

My latest experiences with spending money on Harleys

05 Dyna was purchased for 14400 total after add ons 23200 Thats 8800 after the fact
07 was purchased for 17660 total after add ons 27500 thats 9840 after the fact
10 CVO Ultra 32900 total after add ons 34825 that is 1925 after the fact.
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Re: HD Doesn't Do Much to Protect CVO Features
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 12:08:22 PM »

... However, 2011 may be the last year they hand assemble the CVOs.  HD is moving the CVO assemblage out to the production line and they will be built the same as the non-CVO bikes.


I thought that already happened before production of 2010 started  ::)
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Re: HD Doesn't Do Much to Protect CVO Features
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2010, 01:05:34 PM »

Now there's an odd circumstance!  However, there are still only X number of that color CVO tin out there. 

When my '07 red/black Jester  :cherry:(Lil Mermaid) went down, the outer fairing, front fender, gas tank, lft side lower fairing, rear saddle bad & lid, and the derby cover (stamped w/ Screamin Eagle 110) were replaced (also the frame, forks, exhaust, grips, bars, etc). I left the painted parts on as they were scuffed (but not real bad) & put ALL the new painted parts in my garage attic.
Some day when I change them out, I'll have almost all the CVO tins for an '07 SEUC that will only need minor painting to sell...
(Also have the original SE mufflers & air temp gauge, HK amp & wire harness)

Another year or so, the way I ride this bitch, I'll have a full set of tins!     :huepfenlol2:

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Re: HD Doesn't Do Much to Protect CVO Features
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2010, 03:12:17 PM »

Actually, I believe that a CVO's are the most duplicated bikes out there.  Because of high production as Jerry stated, you are more likely to see an exact clone than any non CVO bike because everyone does their own thing.  I've been to a single parking lot and seen three identical CVOs which to me lessens the uniqueness.  It's true that you save money having it assembled once, but as far as the hand built quality, not in my case (lots of problems on first day).  Remember, a tech building a whole bike only does 2 a day.  If they have difficulty assembling a step, they will mess up a lot of bikes before they learn the better way.  With an assembly line, the tech only does one or two operations and gets those exact or every knows who did it. 
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