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Jim,

While the Baker has a 1:1 6th gear ratio (which is the most efficient ratio in terms of power loss), you still have the overdrive affect from the change in the primary ratio (25 tooth engine sprocket H-D 5 and H-D 6 speed, 28 tooth sprocket with the DD6).

[DCFIREMANN]

IMHO if you are going to install a 6 speed in a touring bike WHY WOULD YOU WANT A GO FAST DIRECT DRIVE??? You are installing a 6 speed for the overdrive option while on the highway. This will lower your RPM's up your fuel milage and put less wear and tear on your drive train! If you want a go fast bike by a dyna!!!!!!

Be safe

THE DAWG

[grc]

Jim,

Both the original Baker and the DD6 require an electronic recalibrator for the speedometer/odometer.  That is also true for the Rev-Tech and the other copycats out there.  If someone is comparing total costs, that's another $100-150.    

Jerry

[grc]

IMHO if you are going to install a 6 speed in a touring bike WHY WOULD YOU WANT A GO FAST DIRECT DRIVE??? You are installing a 6 speed for the overdrive option while on the highway. This will lower your RPM's up your fuel milage and put less wear and tear on your drive train! If you want a go fast bike by a dyna!!!!!!

Be safe

THE DAWG

Dawg,

You make a good point.  With the H-D trans, normal riding will usually be in 5th (1:1) gear, with overdrive available for those long stretches of 70 mph + down the interstate.  With the DD6, normal driving will be in 5th gear, and the more efficient 1:1 ratio 6th will only be used on those interstate runs.  So it comes down to each individual and how they ride.  

Jerry

[don]

To me a nother negative on the Baker is starting the 103 engin. I'm thanking that there is going to be a different RPM on the crankshaft from the starter.

[jfritz_drfritz]

I would think that since the DD6 has a larger engine sprocker (28 vs 25) and the starter is attached to the transmission that it would make it easier for the starter to turn the engine over - potentially a benefit for larger builds! [smiley=jalapeno.gif]

[don]

Yea easyer to turn, but less RPM  from the crank. Maybe better, maybe worse, how about some input you dd6 owners.

[tmo465]

I'll kick in with a comment on this.  I considered the baker, however with the extra cost of the baker, and the fact a buddy of mine had to send his back due to a major problem with it (which baker covered totally) I went with the Harley 6 speed. I do lots of road miles and figured if I had a problem, at least it's Dealer supported.  

I went with the 3:37 gearing set up along with the 6 speed box which I swapped out.

After putting 1400 miles on this set up in Daytona all i can say is, it made a great choice for me personally.  Extra zip from 1st thru 5th, crusing in 6th is a breeze and I did not notice any problem at speeds lower than 70 in 6th.  70 and above, just add right wrist and it moves right along.

Now if you swap out the total gearbox, it is an added expense for sure, but I figured if I want to re-coup some of the cost, I can always sell the complete 5 speed in the future. The 5 speed gear sets do not seem to be a big money maker on e-bay.

Now all I need to do is stop trying to find that 7th gear,,lolololol

Tom

[HDMAN]

I have read this post for some time, and I joined today because I feel it's time to add my 2 cents.
I installed a Baker six speed in my roadking about one year ago. I've had nothing but trouble with it. First it shifted so hard that you needed the heel shifter to change gears, then it started to slip out of fifth gear under load, thats an experience! All of these issues were delt with by Baker but it was frustrating.
However the thing I find the most disturbing is that when you replace the motor sprocket to regear it it causes the chain adjuster to be really high which loops the primary chain. You may say well that's no big deal but when you hit the starter or you decelerate hard that puts a lot of stress on the bottom of the chain pulling down hard on the adjuster.
 At any rate I have several friends with Harley six speeds and believe me that' :)s the way to go. Just speaking from experience, the best teacher.

[sanjoseduke]

OK Guys I knew I could count on you for some great input. Thanks a lot for all your comments & experiences. Looks like you can't go wrong with the HD 6 speed. It is also a good feeling to know that if I have any trouble with the 6 speed on the road I can get it serviced at any HD shop and hopefully under HD warranty.

SanJoseDuke

[don]

Thanks HDMAN for your input. Sorry to here about the bad experence with the dd6. Kinda makes me fell I made the right choise on the complete SE trany.

[HDMAN]

The concept is of the direct drive in sixth gear is good however the only way I see that you can do this properly is the way that Harley dealt with it on the Dynas. By changing both the engine and clutch basket the chain runs almost straight on the bottom as well. I will bet the ranch you will see this on the 07 dressers as well. The only problem is that we can not retrofit it to ours.
But at any rate the HD 6 is a great setup, Baker will try to tell you that the big drawback is that you can not change it back, due to the necessary case modification. I don't understand why ony one that has a six speed would ever consider going back to the five speed gearing, so to me it's not an issue. It would be great if some one designed a five that spaced the gears like a six, same low and same high, and nice spacing between, and maybe it's in the works.  

[Hogfn]

,[highlight] I went with the 3:37 gearing set up along with the 6 speed box which I swapped out.[/highlight]

TMO465,
Tom, Thanks for the words.  How many 'bike bucks' did it cost to buy the 6-speed and gears and have HD install.....I need to start saving up..... [smiley=nervous.gif]

[sanjoseduke]

,[highlight] I went with the 3:37 gearing set up along with the 6 speed box which I swapped out.[/highlight]

TMO465,
Tom, Thanks for the words.

[Canuck]

Went to my Dealer today to check on the delivery of my bike expected Wednesday.  He said he will call me when it has arrived but wasn't sure if it would be Wednesday.  I asked him if I could come by before they remove it from the crate so I could get some good "birth of a CVO" pictures for my friends on-line.  He said NO.  He said it would be too busy for me to be hanging around the shop.  I can't believe it  What a jerk.

The reason I post this here is because I asked him whathe thought of me putting a six speed transmission on the bike and he said it was a bad idea!  He said it isn't useful unless you are going to be travelling faster than 100 miles/hour.  He said the drop in rpm at lower speeds is bad for the bike.  This from the same guy who said you can't put True Duals on an fuel injected bike only on a carburated bike.  This guy is making me crazy.  Do you see why I am willing to drive to Reno to have a real mechanic install my pipes!

Looks like I will have to find another dealer to install my HD six speed transmission.