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[Keats]

Fantastic information, love the picts

[kraut]

here are the pics of the second - and successfull - ride to Wallachia: click 

[FNGw/08SERK]

Excellent thread Hans, thank you!!

[Jock]

Very nice and appreicated...

[Jock]

Home sweet home..

[2k]

Great Pics.....several different worlds out there

[Wheelsnkeels]

Great pictures and interestimg reading thanks for posting it 

[kraut]

if you liked those pics, I'll show you some more  

This weekend we rode just some 130 m on 2 days - weather was sunny on Saturday, but temperature was as low as 35 F in the morning and didn't rise over 55 F at noon. Sunday was mostly overclouded

We just went to our closest vicinity, there is a historically infamous place near by: Na Tokani, the hunting lodges of the princes Kinsky, today a small resort inmidst Bohemian Switzerland. In 1938 however, William Lord Runciman had meetings there with the german nobility in Bohemia preceeding his report that led to the Munich Agreement - this very fact prevents until today the restitution of the property to the Kinsky family.

The place formerly known as Balzhütte was a refuge for the hunters since medievial ages, and in 1904 the present buildings were erect. Times went by, but the architecture survived because of the absence of funds - the toilets and the beds are 21st century, everything else is mostly 1904  

The last bear of northern Bohemia was shot near this place 1724 ...

[16HD117]

Hey Kraut, from looking at your pics looks like there my be some good dove fields in that area!  Can you recommend a good outfitter???
 

[Keats]

We just went to our closest vicinity, there is a historically infamous place near by: Na Tokani, the hunting lodges of the princes Kinsky, today a small resort inmidst Bohemian Switzerland. In 1938 however, William Lord Runciman had meetings there with the german nobility in Bohemia preceeding his report that led to the Munich Agreement - this very fact prevents until today the restitution of the property to the Kinsky family.

A real feather for Neville Chamberlain, "The Munich Pact"

how absurd......

[kraut]

Hey Kraut, from looking at your pics looks like there my be some good dove fields in that area!  Can you recommend a good outfitter???
 

there are no such outfitters. In Germany and Bohemia the old territorial hunting law rules. You need a private invitation, otherwise no go.

The next "outfitter" I know of are the counts Kinsky at Cloumec - but "dove" we are hunting occasionally for the kitchen only - this is high game area.

[kraut]

A real feather for Neville Chamberlain, "The Munich Pact"

how absurd......

it's a sad topic - the more you know about it the less you want our European future to be burdened with it ...

Never read de Zayas about this topic - you want to preserve your sound sleep ...

Today we very much insist on this beeing an internal topic of the EC - we expressly never again want any outsiders opinion about it. Too many people had to die ...

[Keats]

it's a sad topic - the more you know about it the less you want our European future to be burdened with it ...

Never read de Zayas about this topic - you want to preserve your sound sleep ...

Today we very much insist on this beeing an internal topic of the EC - we expressly never again want any outsiders opinion about it. Too many people had to die ...

I love studying history, it is a hobby of mine.
I am just starting to discover Eastern European History.

I am more familiar with US History, Revolutionary and Civil war history.
Recently started to try and understand World War II history only to find that World War I history was needed.

The one thing that escapes me to this day is trying to comprehend the scope of lives lost. It is far from my ability.
50 - 60 million in WWII alone.

I did not intend to hijack your thread with the great pictures, it was just a curiosity that needed scratched.

I appreciated your comments and opinion.

Keats

[kraut]

the sheer loss of lives indeed was devasting - WWI, influenza and WWII together with the ethnical "purges" killed millions of people and left areas densely populated before 1914 virtually uninhabitated after 1945. The face of earth changed and today we are in difficulties to understand what happened because many stories still have to be untold for reasons of "political correctness".

As an example there were several wars between Poland, Czecheslovakia, Hungaria, Finlandia and Russia in the 1920ies - "officialy" untold stories, but over 2 Mio people died in those "skirmishes" ...

[Keats]

I truly believe that to not repeat the past one must be a student of History.

These lessons must be embraced.

Having grown up in a rather sheltered environment in the US.

There has not been experience like that here.

The closest is The Civil WAR and as bad as that was over 135 years ago the numbers 500,000 (even though huge in our history) are quite small

compared to what has happened in the European Theatre.

The shear scope is not even imaginable.

Nationalism expanding in the late 19th Century certainly had a profound result in history.