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Harley Davidson Company
« on: March 23, 2011, 07:14:40 PM »

 Does anyone have an in at HD. They been Changing parts on my bike for two months. Tried to talk to some one at HD  they won't let you get past cust service
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2011, 07:42:49 PM »

Welcome to the site from Tennessee!
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 08:02:39 PM »

welcome to the site.. please introduce yourself in the new member introduction section.

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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 12:38:07 AM »

Does anyone have an in at HD. They been Changing parts on my bike for two months. Tried to talk to some one at HD  they won't let you get past cust service


Why need an "in?"  After two months of parts changing the bike ought to be brand new two or three times over :drink: .



(I'm probably not understanding something here [again...].)
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 07:53:22 AM »

When to call HD ask for John M. He has always been a lot of help to me.
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 06:03:36 PM »

Does anyone have an in at HD. They been Changing parts on my bike for two months. Tried to talk to some one at HD  they won't let you get past cust service

Changing what parts, and why?  If they can't fix a problem in 2 months, and your state has a Lemon Law, it might be time to check it out.  Especially if the bike is still new (relatively).
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 09:15:12 PM »

When to call HD ask for John M. He has always been a lot of help to me.

Don't know John M but if you ask for Willie G you might get some action. Not sure about the last name or extension but the receptionist should be able to connect you.
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 09:32:19 PM »


I'm confused.  You sign up so you can post a question, obviously looking for some help, then you never post again to clarify or answer questions or update the situation.  Should we assume everything is now wonderful and you need no assistance?

BTW, you don't need an "in", if such a thing exists at H-D.  All you need is to contact customer service and after all the BS just politely ask to speak to a manager.  Don't act like a fool, and you will probably get your wish.  If you don't receive a satisfactory response, then you should pull together all your records and contact your state attorney generals office, your state lemon law office if one exists, and your favorite attorney.  If you have a serious problem that hasn't been fixed for two months or more, I'm pretty sure one of the above will be able to light a fire under the appropriate persons at H-D.  Of course, if you're just talking about something cosmetic like paint or chrome, the response won't be the same as if the bike was out of service for mechanical or electrical failures for all that time.  What does your dealer (not the hired help, the dealer) say?


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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 07:20:20 AM »

They'll all pretty much ignore you equally.
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 10:46:22 AM »

All manufactures have a dealer rep for an area. Ford, GM, HD etc. Ask you local dealer how to get in touch with the area Factory Rep. The Factory Rep will help you resolve your problem. He/she is the person between the dealer, the manufacturer (the factory) and you. If he/she is unable to resolve your problem then your should contact your states Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) AND the DMV for your state. The DCA will investigate your complaint and request that the dealer make any necessary repairs. If this is not satisfactory then you should retain an attorney. In California the Lemon Law only applies to new vehicles. In order to qualify as a lemon, your vehicle must be in the shop at least 5 or more times for the same problem within the first year of ownership or be in the shop for 30 consecutive days. Used vehicles can also be lemons. They must be in the shop for an unreasonable amount of time. Unreasonable amount of time is not defined by law and is subjective to the parties or judge hearing the matter. Hopefully this information helps.
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 03:45:27 PM »

At one point I knew the guy who was a brother-in-law of the guy who delivered pizza to the pool boy that cleaned the pool 2 streets over from a guy who knew Willie G. in High School.  Man I had it made with the MoCo then.  The pizza guy lost his job & it all went downhill from there...
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 04:27:03 PM »

Its the same with BMW
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 04:38:07 PM »

All manufactures have a dealer rep for an area. Ford, GM, HD etc. Ask you local dealer how to get in touch with the area Factory Rep. The Factory Rep will help you resolve your problem. He/she is the person between the dealer, the manufacturer (the factory) and you. If he/she is unable to resolve your problem then your should contact your states Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) AND the DMV for your state. The DCA will investigate your complaint and request that the dealer make any necessary repairs. If this is not satisfactory then you should retain an attorney. In California the Lemon Law only applies to new vehicles. In order to qualify as a lemon, your vehicle must be in the shop at least 5 or more times for the same problem within the first year of ownership or be in the shop for 30 consecutive days. Used vehicles can also be lemons. They must be in the shop for an unreasonable amount of time. Unreasonable amount of time is not defined by law and is subjective to the parties or judge hearing the matter. Hopefully this information helps.

Not my experience.  We bought an 06 BMW330i in 08 (it was used but still under the factory warranty coverage period)and we sued under the lemon law.  About 90 days later they got the car back an paid off the loan and gave us all of our payments back (minus a small "usage" fee), interest, registration fees and paid our attorney fees.  I was very surprised at how easy it was.  :2vrolijk_21:  Of course we had serious documentation of the on going issues.
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 02:18:13 AM »

   1.
      Coverage For New Motor Vehicles.
         1.
            OVERVIEW OF SONG-BEVERLY WARRANTY RIGHTS

            The Song-Beverly Consumer Warranty Act (beginning with Civil Code section 1790) provides protection for consumers who lease or buy new motor vehicles. The law requires that if the manufacturer or its representative in this state, such as an authorized dealer, is unable to service or repair a new motor vehicle to meet the terms of an express written warranty after a reasonable number of repair attempts, the manufacturer is required promptly to replace the vehicle or return the purchase price to the lessee or buyer. The purchase price that must be returned includes the price paid for manufacturer-installed items and transportation but does not include the price paid for nonmanufacturer items installed by the dealer. The lessee or buyer is completely free to choose whether to accept a replacement or a refund. Whatever the choice, the manufacturer is also responsible to pay for sales or use tax; license, registration, and other official fees; and incidental damages that the lessee or buyer may have incurred such as finance charges, repair, towing, and rental car costs.

            The lessee or buyer may be charged for the use of the vehicle regardless of whether the vehicle is replaced or the purchase price is refunded. The amount that may be charged for use is determined by multiplying the actual price of the new vehicle by a fraction having as its denominator 120,000 and as its numerator the number of miles traveled by the vehicle before it was first brought in for correction of the problem. For example, if the car had traveled 6,000 miles before it was first brought in for correction of the problem, the lessee or buyer could be charged 5% (6,000/120,000 = 5%) of the purchase price for usage.

            The law applies for the entire period of your warranty. For example, if your vehicle is covered by a three-year warranty and you discover a defect after two years, the manufacturer will have to replace the vehicle or reimburse you as outlined above if the manufacturer or its representative is unable to conform the vehicle to the express warranty after a reasonable number of attempts to do so.

            Song-Beverly does not apply if the problem was caused by abuse after the vehicle was delivered. Be sure you follow the terms of the warranty for maintenance and proper use of the vehicle.

            Although there is a four-year statute of limitations to bring a law suit for breach of warranty or for violations of Song-Beverly, you should act promptly to try to resolve the problem fairly and quickly without legal action if possible.
 
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Re: Harley Davidson Company
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 02:20:59 AM »

         2.
            THE "LEMON LAW" AND WHAT IS A REASONABLE NUMBER OF REPAIR ATTEMPTS

            What is considered a reasonable number of repair attempts will depend on the circumstances including the seriousness of the defect. For example, one or two repair attempts may be considered reasonable for serious safety defects such as brake failure, depending on the exact situation.

            A special provision, often called the "Lemon Law," helps determine what is a reasonable number of repair attempts for problems that substantially impair the use, value, or safety of the vehicle. The "Lemon Law" applies to these problems if they arise during the first 18 months after the consumer received delivery of the vehicle or within the first 18,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first. During the first 18 months or 18,000 miles, the "Lemon Law" presumes that a manufacturer has had a reasonable number of attempts to repair the vehicle if either (1) The same problem results in a condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven and the problem has been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer or its agents, and the buyer or lessee has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or (2) The same problem has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents and the buyer has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or (3) The vehicle is out of service because of the repair of any number of problems by the manufacturer or its agents for a cumulative total of more than 30 days since delivery of the vehicle.

            The "Lemon Law" presumption is a guide, not an absolute rule. A judge or arbitrator can assume that the manufacturer has had a reasonable number of chances to repair the vehicle if all of the conditions are met. The manufacturer, however, has the right to try to prove that it should have the chance to attempt additional repairs, and the consumer has the right to show that fewer repair attempts are reasonable under the circumstances.

            Be sure to check your warranty and owner's manual for instructions. You may be required to directly notify the manufacturer of the problem(s). It is a good idea to send your written notice to the manufacturer at the address shown in the warranty or owner's manual by certified mail, return receipt requested so that you have proof that your letter was received. Keep a copy of all correspondence.

            If the manufacturer maintains a state-certified arbitration program, the consumer must submit the warranty dispute to the arbitration program before the consumer can take advantage of the presumption in court. Arbitration is an alternative to court proceedings. The consumer may assert the presumption during arbitration. Information about any arbitration should be described in the warranty or owner's manual.

            Not every manufacturer maintains a state certified program. You should check with the Department of Consumer Affairs' Arbitration Certification Program at (800) 952-5210 or on the Internet at www.dca.ca.gov/acp/. You can also ask for the department's free pamphlet that explains more about arbitration, "Lemon Aid for Consumers."
 
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