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[mrmagloo]

Couple of quick questions. I finally bit the bullet and am going to get the DD6 installed in my 06 SEUC.

Is there a 1st gear stop? I thougth I read somewhere that there wasn't, but the Baker guys says there is??  I would sure appreciate the straight dope there.

Also, what is the gear lube capacity with the new gear set? I know it uses the same housing, but want to make sure I only need to pick up one qt of the Mobil1 75w90.  Or do they recommend the 140?  I just don't want that HD Syn3 crap anywhere near it!

[Spiderman]

Had a Baker DD6 in Elvis Magloo.

Can't think of a thing to complain about it

Seems to me it used an even qt of lube.

I don't recall any leftover bottles of AMSOIL Gear Lube (recommended by Baker) sitting around the garage

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[mrmagloo]

Thanks man - Do you recall if it had 1st gear and 6th gear stops?

[Spiderman]

Thanks man - Do you recall if it had 1st gear and 6th gear stops?

Call me stupid, I am not sure what you mean by stops

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[mattm]

1st gear stop-Yes-can't go lower, you know when you hit first.
6th gear stop-No
Capacity = 23oz
DD6 comes with a bottle of Red Line Shock Proof.  Now recommended by Baker.

[mrmagloo]

I just talked to James over there and he said they include one 23Qt bottle of the Spectro 75w140. However, they recommend the Redline ShockProof Heavyweight which 75w250 - Whoa!  I just wonder about the fuel economy running something that thick. He did say 140 is OK.

He also said the drum has a positive stop for the top and bottom for 1st and 6th. That's great news! I read on another forum there was no 1st stop, and my heart almost dropped.

Thanks guys!

[Spiderman]

1st gear stop-Yes-can't go lower, you know when you hit first.
6th gear stop-No
Capacity = 23oz
DD6 comes with a bottle of Red Line Shock Proof.  Now recommended by Baker.

Well then yes my DD6 had stops. Guess they've changed their gear oil recommendation. It WAS Amsoil. Redline is good stuff though 

Magloo I can't say what they trans will do for you but in my 03 SERK, it changed everything. That bike was about as close to perfect for shift points etc as any I've owned. I am a huge Baker DD6 fan ! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

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[mrmagloo]

Well then yes my DD6 had stops. Guess they've changed their gear oil recommendation. It WAS Amsoil. Redline is good stuff though 

Magloo I can't say what they trans will do for you but in my 03 SERK, it changed everything. That bike was about as close to perfect for shift points etc as any I've owned. I am a huge Baker DD6 fan ! Hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

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Thanks man - I'm really looking forward to this upgrade!

[Cvostu]

I just want to say that gear set is fantastic.    Smooth as anything and neutral is very easy to find too.   Yes it does have a stop for first gear.  They will recommend the gear oil to use.  It is nice and thick and is good for a year.  You will love how nice it works.  I got the one with the shorter first gear.   They told me that I could wind it out more if I wanted too.  I'd say that is the best investment I have made on my 04 seeg.    Makes me want to keep it forever.  

[mrmagloo]

I just want to say that gear set is fantastic.    Smooth as anything and neutral is very easy to find too.   Yes it does have a stop for first gear.  They will recommend the gear oil to use.  It is nice and thick and is good for a year.  Tiy will love how nice it works.  I got the one with the shorter first gear.   They told me that I could wind it out more if I wanted too.  I'd say that is the best investment I have made on my 04 seeg.    Makes me want to keep it forever. 

I went back and forth on that lower ratio for 1st gear option, and I decided to keep the stock ratio. With all of the motor mods, I'm putting down around 102HP/112TQ and really don't need the added leverage. First gear comes and goes pretty quickly already, and I don't do much parade mode, so I figured the stock ratio make more sense.

I do a good amount of highway cruising and getting those rev's down to a reasonable number at highway sppeds was my primary concern. As it is now, I'm turning 2600RPM at 60, 2800 at 65 and 3000 at 70, so getting another gear to pull that 3000 down to 2600 at 70 is going to be very welcome. My 1800 mile Sturgis trip is going to be much more enjoyable this year!

[Spiderman]

I went back and forth on that lower ratio for 1st gear option, and I decided to keep the stock ratio. With all of the motor mods, I'm putting down around 102HP/112TQ and really don't need the added leverage. First gear comes and goes pretty quickly already, and I don't do much parade mode, so I figured the stock ratio make more sense.

I do a good amount of highway cruising and getting those rev's down to a reasonable number at highway sppeds was my primary concern. As it is now, I'm turning 2600RPM at 60, 2800 at 65 and 3000 at 70, so getting another gear to pull that 3000 down to 2600 at 70 is going to be very welcome. My 1800 mile Sturgis trip is going to be much more enjoyable this year!

Magloo, you're running about the same numbers I had in Elvis. I'm not a big wind it up in 1st gear guy, get me into 2nd and I start cranking and I can say that 2nd through 5th always put a big smile on my face. And shifting into 6th was so cool, the tone of the engine was like perfect running down the highway at 75- 80 all day long. I miss Big E more than any motorcycle I've owned in 40 + years of riding. I made a stupid decision to part with it while recovering from knee replacement surgery and stoned on percocet. Since I don't usually do dumb things where motorcycles are concerned, my wife thought I knew what I was up to. I wish she'd said something cause she loved Elvis too. Anyway, one of the things that made that bike so fricken perfect man was that Baker DD6.

OK, one caveat. You need to ensure that the tech doing the install is like THE BEST in the business in your area. While we've trumpeted the virtues of Baker Trans here on your thread, you should be aware that they have to be installed exactly perfectly perfect or you will spin gear shaft bearings and have other issues. They are machined to very tight tolerances and as such have to be installed to very tight tolerances. They are NOT a plug and play kind of thing. None of this should alarm you cause as you've seen here we love our Baker Trannies. Just wanted you to be aware of the caveat.

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[mrmagloo]

The local Harley Dealer is doing the install, so I gotta hope they know what they are doing. They claim they've done a number of them, and Burt was just out doing a seminar show in March (primarily to drum up some business) so all I can do is cross my fingers. I will however be standing over their shoulders, so I hope things go well. if not, I'll just ride out to Michigan and let Baker sort it out.

[mattm]

I'm turning 2600RPM at 60, 2800 at 65 and 3000 at 70, so getting another gear to pull that 3000 down to 2600 at 70 is going to be very welcome. My 1800 mile Sturgis trip is going to be much more enjoyable this year!

With the DD6, at 3000, I'm hitting just north of 80.  70 is around 2500.  You're gonna love it.  While you are doing the upgrade, add the Baker high torque bearing kit

http://store.bakerdrivetrain.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=189-56&type=4

and the Baker spacer

http://store.bakerdrivetrain.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=33344-94S&type=0&eq=&key=it

[mrmagloo]

Are those two items included in the full kit? It's getting installed Friday morning.

[mattm]

No, they are extras (of course).  The Bearing is highly recomended for higher tq motors.