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Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« on: July 14, 2011, 01:21:44 AM »

My 2011 Street Glide doesn't feel very sure-footed in 75-80 MPH sweepers. I get a sense of a slight uneasiness or shimmy in these conditions. Anytime else, it's fine.

Is this 'Bagger Wobble', or is what I'm experiencing to be expected on a Harley Touring bike?

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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 08:34:28 AM »

I don't have any un-easiness at any speed up to 120 mph.  75-80 is normal riding speed on the freeways here in Cali so we're at the speed often and for long periods of time.
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 09:08:54 AM »

I don't have any un-easiness at any speed up to 120 mph.  75-80 is normal riding speed on the freeways .....

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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 10:06:05 AM »

Could this be a loose steering head bearing?
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 11:00:56 AM »

Could this be a loose steering head bearing?

That would be the first thing I would check, along with tires.

I have never heard of "Bagger Wobble" but there is a whole thread on the wobble condition. see death wobble
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 02:06:28 PM »

Are your rear shocks set to factory recommendations for your weight and load? If not, the rear can steer the front. My '10 SESG which is identical to yours in all relative aspects, is rock solid at 80+ in corners marked 60. And, stable on the freeway in bursts well above 90mph.
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2011, 02:36:12 PM »

Are your rear shocks set to factory recommendations for your weight and load? If not, the rear can steer the front. My '10 SESG which is identical to yours in all relative aspects, is rock solid at 80+ in corners marked 60. And, stable on the freeway in bursts well above 90mph.

I'm ~190lbs.
Rear shocks: 35psi.
Front tire: 36psi.
Rear tire: 40psi.
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2011, 03:22:43 PM »

Are your rear shocks set to factory recommendations for your weight and load? If not, the rear can steer the front. My '10 SESG which is identical to yours in all relative aspects, is rock solid at 80+ in corners marked 60. And, stable on the freeway in bursts well above 90mph.

Can you give us any clues about how the rear shocks can cause this condition? I'm running a pair of aftermarket rear shocks and would like some idea of how they might be adjusted to cure a condition like this.

My '10 CUSE has wobbled or weaved in ~80 mph sweepers so I took it to my stealership and they charged me $115 to tighten the head bearings. And it's still under warranty!!  >:( After doing a little research on this site, I found an H-D bulletin that came out in '09 that talked about correct head bearing adjustment. I think it said that head bearings that are too tight can inhibit the bike's ability to absorb a weave, and too loose can inhibit it's ability to fight a wobble. It didn't give any clues as to how to define a weave or wobble though. It sounds important to know which problem you are faced with.

I'm thinking my bike may have a weave, which means my dealer did exactly the wrong thing to fix it -and they charged me for it too!
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 04:52:21 PM »

My '10 CUSE has wobbled or weaved in ~80 mph sweepers so I took it to my stealership and they charged me $115 to tighten the head bearings.

Did tightening the steering head bearings help your problem?
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2011, 09:13:37 AM »

My '10 CUSE has wobbled or weaved in ~80 mph sweepers so I took it to my stealership and they charged me $115 to tighten the head bearings

What kind of rational did they give  that made you decide to pay for a service that should have been covered under warranty?
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2011, 09:36:58 AM »

Can you give us any clues about how the rear shocks can cause this condition? I'm running a pair of aftermarket rear shocks and would like some idea of how they might be adjusted to cure a condition like this.

My '10 CUSE has wobbled or weaved in ~80 mph sweepers so I took it to my stealership and they charged me $115 to tighten the head bearings. And it's still under warranty!!  >:( After doing a little research on this site, I found an H-D bulletin that came out in '09 that talked about correct head bearing adjustment. I think it said that head bearings that are too tight can inhibit the bike's ability to absorb a weave, and too loose can inhibit it's ability to fight a wobble. It didn't give any clues as to how to define a weave or wobble though. It sounds important to know which problem you are faced with.

I'm thinking my bike may have a weave, which means my dealer did exactly the wrong thing to fix it -and they charged me for it too!

Bet I can guess what dealership, too!!! 8)
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2011, 09:48:47 AM »

2011 RGC and I have had no problems, EXCEPT when I was playing with air pressure level on the rear shocks. When it was too low , like 10-30 PSI and it changed things alot. I never went 80 or even 50mph as it acted up when I was applying rear braking with the  bike in gear and it felt like something was loose or moving. I think that if the shocks don't have enough pressure, the built in flex in the rear fork mount, combined with the lack of pressure in the shocks allows movement normally not found during a ride on a correctly set up '09 and newer frame design. Shocks would be my first look thou..... Set what ever u have to max psi and see if u change anything???? What brand of system is it? I love this chassis and it's rock solid feel and when I ride an older version, it surprises me how much less confident I feel when I'm pushing it alittle through some twisties...
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2011, 10:00:32 AM »

My '10 CUSE has wobbled or weaved in ~80 mph sweepers so I took it to my stealership and they charged me $115 to tighten the head bearings
What kind of rational did they give  that made you decide to pay for a service that should have been covered under warranty?

I'd find another dealership.  If the neck bearings weren't set to the right spec from the factory, that's a warranty issue.

The SESG don't have air shocks however, at least on my bike, it doesn't matter if my pre-load is adjusted all the way up or all the way down.....I just don't have the bagger wobble...rear stear...what ever you want to call it.  It's very solid and firm at any speed.
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2011, 08:40:05 PM »

Did tightening the steering head bearings help your problem?
Don't know if the adjustment to the head bearings made any difference yet -haven't had a chance to push it hard since then. Work keeps getting in the way (but that's a good thing!)

What kind of rational did they give  that made you decide to pay for a service that should have been covered under warranty?
I have a pair of Bitubos on the back (since the H-D lowering shocks were poop), so they said "it's been modified -no warranty coverage!"

So I'm trying to figure it out for myself... ???
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Re: Do 2011 Touring Bikes Have Any Degree of Bagger Wobble?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2011, 11:57:35 PM »

Don't know if the adjustment to the head bearings made any difference yet -haven't had a chance to push it hard since then. Work keeps getting in the way (but that's a good thing!)
I have a pair of Bitubos on the back (since the H-D lowering shocks were poop), so they said "it's been modified -no warranty coverage!"

So I'm trying to figure it out for myself... ???
  Simple enough.....find a dealership that values you as a customer. The suspension, front or rear has nothing to do with the fall away and the neck bearings.
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