Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2  All

Author Topic: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys  (Read 2869 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

FADBOY

  • Full CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 195
Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« on: August 09, 2011, 03:06:59 PM »

Just been over to Belgium & holland for a rally (retie) and spotted 3 flstse2
I spoke to two of the owners and they both said they paid €32,000!!!! I thought the uk was bad at £23,000!

Went into a dealer and they were buying new bikes from uk dealers, to sell on as new bikes?

A £6000 sportster in uk was €8995 in Belgium, also a modestly shop customised 4 year old softail bike was €27995

Also two of them took off their $400 handlebars and fitted bigger apes and the other beach bars, but I did like the
Ones headlight which was the big one off the softail deluxe.
Logged

dcigar

  • Senior CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 258

    • CVO1: 2011 FLSTSE2
    • CVO2: 1996 FXSTC
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 09:00:58 PM »

try australia at about $43000 ride away and about $47000 for the street glide
Logged

kraut

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1830
  • Ride & Have Fun

    • CVO1: FLHTCUSE4
    • Harley Café Dresden
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2011, 04:38:45 AM »

prices in UK will rise so you won't need to complain for long  :D
Logged
CU on the road, Hans

Ride & Have Fun

FADBOY

  • Full CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 195
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2011, 07:07:40 AM »

here are the FLSTSE prices around the world in dollars

USA...$30,699
UK.....$37,400
Japan.$38,645
Aus....$44,500
Euro...$45,000
Swiss.$58,000

So its got to pay to import from other countries nearby.
Logged

Grizzly

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3010
    • ON


    • CVO1: '05 Jalapeno 1 of 692 sold
    • CVO2: '08 Duracell #601 of 1,800
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2011, 08:04:11 AM »

You forgot CAN - $32,589.00
Logged
ALL 10 Provinces & ALL Lower 48 States ridden on "MY" bike

              NW Territories and Alaska, here I come!

Kevinski

  • Full CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 217

    • CVO1: FLSTSE3 and lovin' it
    • CVO2: FLSTSE2 and loved it but sold it
    • CVO3: FLHXSE Tequila (sold)
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 03:42:29 PM »

Any UK dealership selling new bikes to europe is gone. This has happened already.

Cheers,

Kev
Logged

Pegus

  • Senior CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 438

    • CVO1: FLSTSE2
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 06:07:37 PM »

here are the FLSTSE prices around the world in dollars

USA...$30,699
UK.....$37,400
Japan.$38,645
Aus....$44,500
Euro...$45,000
Swiss.$58,000

 :jalapeno: Yes we win!!!!!  ::)

Logged
Don't postpone until tomorrow what you can do the day after that. Ride on!

kraut

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1830
  • Ride & Have Fun

    • CVO1: FLHTCUSE4
    • Harley Café Dresden
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 04:19:27 AM »

funny: compare the new "official" website of Warrs to the hidden international version  ;D

Still operational and easily found by google ...
Logged
CU on the road, Hans

Ride & Have Fun

Kevinski

  • Full CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 217

    • CVO1: FLSTSE3 and lovin' it
    • CVO2: FLSTSE2 and loved it but sold it
    • CVO3: FLHXSE Tequila (sold)
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 02:07:20 PM »

Its not an issue if you buy a bike from a UK dealer and its registered in the UK, the issue in the past was that new bikes were in other european dealerships as new bikes but HD had them linked to UK dealers.
Logged

kraut

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1830
  • Ride & Have Fun

    • CVO1: FLHTCUSE4
    • Harley Café Dresden
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 04:26:18 AM »

the issue was and still is: if a continental dealer is supposed to sell let's say 100 bikes/year and sees 15 british bikes/year imported to "his" territory this dealer is not really happy - and I know at least 3 German examples for just about those figures ;)

But this is quite dangerous territory with respect to Art. 101 Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and the respective European national laws on competition:

"The following shall be prohibited as incompatible with the internal market: all agreements between undertakings, decisions by associations of undertakings and concerted practices which may affect trade between Member States and which have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the internal market, and in particular those which:
(a) directly or indirectly fix purchase or selling prices or any other trading conditions;
(b) limit or control production, markets, technical development, or investment;
(c) share markets or sources of supply;
(d) apply dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;
(e) make the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.
..."

So there is no legal way to prevent UK dealers to sell to continental customers or those customers to buy from UK dealers except bringing UK prices to continentl level  ;)

Since the US Supreme Court changed his mind about minimum resale prices in 2007 US companies are under close watch in the EC anyway for their respect of EC competition laws.

Garmin alone had to pay 2,5 mio Eur in 2010 for its "kickback scheme" (Garmin reimbursed online traders if they stopped selling under Garmins MSRP, maybe legal under US law, evidently illegal under EC law).

So H-D has to be very, very carefull with its measures to discourage UK dealers to sell to continental customers ...
Logged
CU on the road, Hans

Ride & Have Fun

Kevinski

  • Full CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 217

    • CVO1: FLSTSE3 and lovin' it
    • CVO2: FLSTSE2 and loved it but sold it
    • CVO3: FLHXSE Tequila (sold)
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 03:52:52 PM »

Well if anyone in europe wants to offer me more money than I paid for my 2011 ConV please let me know  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Logged

Pegus

  • Senior CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 438

    • CVO1: FLSTSE2
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 05:34:13 PM »

funny: compare the new "official" website of Warrs to the hidden international version  ;D

Still operational and easily found by google ...

Not sure whats wrong, both links take me to same page with identical prices  :nixweiss:
Logged
Don't postpone until tomorrow what you can do the day after that. Ride on!

kraut

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1830
  • Ride & Have Fun

    • CVO1: FLHTCUSE4
    • Harley Café Dresden
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 03:36:19 AM »

look closer: there are no more language buttons on the "official" version  ;)
Logged
CU on the road, Hans

Ride & Have Fun

Pegus

  • Senior CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 438

    • CVO1: FLSTSE2
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 03:40:18 PM »

Ok got it!

With current prices in Switzerland, it's now cheaper to import a CVO from the US.
5000 Euro conversion and tests to make it legal, and still 7-8000 Euro left on the bank
Logged
Don't postpone until tomorrow what you can do the day after that. Ride on!

Guy De Wilder

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1
Re: Can't believe the prices in western Europe of harleys
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 06:48:58 PM »

 :o
Just been over to Belgium & holland for a rally (retie) and spotted 3 flstse2
I spoke to two of the owners and they both said they paid €32,000!!!! I thought the uk was bad at £23,000!

Went into a dealer and they were buying new bikes from uk dealers, to sell on as new bikes?

A £6000 sportster in uk was €8995 in Belgium, also a modestly shop customised 4 year old softail bike was €27995

Also two of them took off their $400 handlebars and fitted bigger apes and the other beach bars, but I did like the
Ones headlight which was the big one off the softail deluxe.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  All
 

Page created in 0.223 seconds with 21 queries.