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cliffy

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Speaker output on the 2011
« on: August 24, 2011, 05:33:22 PM »

After riding a Street Glide for the past couple of weeks in Sturgis and the Black Hills with the Music blaring out I was wondering if anyone has tried upgrading the standard speakers and amplifier on the convertible. With the recently installed V&H Pro Pipe the stock speakers are only audible up to about 50 mph. It would be great to have a louder system on the convertible. 
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 03:15:04 PM »

I'm interested as well. I put the Rush slip ons on my 11 and I have to crank the speakers up to hear them and they lose the base at higher volume.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 03:53:03 AM »

I know that using a 12v powered sat nav with music on increases the volume a lot, but have not tried putting a 12v supply to the iPod yet you could try that?
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 07:59:04 AM »

Interesting solution.....so your saying the problem lies more with an under powered nano than it does with the speaker system.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 08:00:30 AM »

What nav sat are you using?
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 12:10:32 PM »

I used the ipod that came with the bike and noticed it was too quiet at speeds over 50mph (vance and hines pipes dont help) and you had to remember to turn it off otherwise it would go flat also you could not change tracks etc so I put all the music on the Garmin Zumo 550 I was suprised that I could hear at 70mph and had to drop the sound down every time I slowed below 50 as it was too loud and it turned heads.
This may be down to the Zumo having more power and being connected to a 12v ciggy socket.

Myself does not really know the ins and outs of the outputs and watts etc but If you read about the ipod nano it says on a lot of the tech sites that they have no problem powering earbud headphones but struggle on the bigger stuff.

 Output Power      
 Another major factor for media players is how much power they output. The more power they output, the better the job they can do at driving bigger pairs of headphones. A poor media player might only output 10 or 20 milliwatts of power, which means that it would not have the juice to drive a better set of headphones than the one they come with, limiting your options to add bigger and better headphones to replace the ones they come with. We measured the output power of the iPod Nano at 29.1 milliwatts, which is decent and enough to drive most headphones; this is enough for most in-ear and earbud style headphones. However, it will begin to choke if you try and use a very large or a particularly high impedence set of headphones; the sound will be low in volume, and it may sound overly distorted and grungy. So, the iPod Nano is fine for most earbud and in-ear type headphones, but it will have problems if you prefer a set of bigger, over hear headphones or want to use a set of professional cans; many of these will have a higher impedence and may have some issues.

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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 12:14:54 PM »

Does your Garmin connect to the bike speakers through the connector used for the iPod?
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 12:24:17 PM »

yes it connects through the small jack plug
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 01:52:18 PM »

Thanks....I'm gonna try my iPhone 4 and see if that makes any difference too.

I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 08:15:41 PM »

My bike is a 2010, so I don't have the speaker set up. :-*  but I do ride with tunes in my helmet using a ipod.   I purchased a small amplifier which splits the signal so that the passenger can listen as well.   This device increases the volume quite a lot.   It works off of a AA battery and just plugs inline.  It was purchased at Radio Shack for not much money.   Might be worth trying.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 08:37:13 PM »

Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2011, 11:20:48 AM »

Tried my iPhone 4 yesterday. Same result as the Nano.

I'm gonna give the direct wire GPS/MP3 suggestion.
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2011, 01:37:16 PM »

Following on from what FADBOY was saying about amplifying the sound coming from the Nano by using the Garmin, I've found this product that's on sale in Maplins (a Radio Shack type shop). It's made by a Chinese company called FIIo and is described as a portable headphone amplifier. Ironically it looks about the same size as a Nano. I've not bought one yet but I'm thinking about getting one. My only concern is whether or not it would damage the speakers. I've managed to get hold of a copy of the user guide, which I've attached. In the UK it costs about £20. If we've got any electronics experts in this group I'd appreciate their comments.







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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2011, 03:41:29 PM »

Since I use an iPhone 4, I wanted to figure out how to use this to it's capability. That means, using the iPod, Mapquest, and phone. Besides, the bike looks the cleanest when all of these functions can be hidden inside the little compartment.

To that end, I just ordered to Fii0 E11 amp. The reviews for the E5 were good but the base reproduction and clarity were much better out of the E11. These were two of my biggest complaints.

I'll keep you guys posted once I receive the E11 and  the line out dock (for an iPhone or iPad).
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Re: Speaker output on the 2011
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 09:00:24 PM »

So here's the verdict.....sort of...

Just received the FiiO E11 and hooked it up. The output and sound quality has improved dramatically. The three eq options and two gain settings really helped me tune it up. 

However, the heavy rain in NE Ohio tonight prevented me from giving it a true road test. 

I'll let you know the final verdict once I perform the road test
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