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[OTIS]

I drag raced for 35yrs and we always said TQ will get you there and HP will keep there.

[MKW]

Haven't read all the post to this topic but "power" needs to be defined.  I view power as torque.  I cannot have enough low end torque as long as my tires still hold the road.  The low end torque is what I want to ge the heavy beast rolling.  Now horse-power is nice once rolling along I would trade torque for horse-power-generally speaking.

[SG Racer]

I drag raced for 35yrs and we always said TQ will get you there and HP will keep there.

Amen. I still drag race and the horsepower and torque chase is always there. There has been a time that I had too much horsepower (class racing), but I could always tame it down. It was there if I needed it.
 You do get to a point that drivability is affected. But a few extra ponies is always great.
Ray

[ralford]

I need to get out to AR one of these days. I hear the roads are awesome for bikes.

fortunately, I'm just about an hour from AR and a good twisty hour it is.  Southern MO is also fantastic, almost like it more as it is less "extreme" and perhaps more scenic.  But you do have to either get around or just pull off is you get behind a chicken truck!

btw: generally feel that power is good and more is better.  Finally found my match with my CBR1000 - never seen redline ... how embarassing.

Cheers

[guppytrash]

More power is never a bad thing!
Just keep the mpg's reasonable and the reliability for the long haul.
 

[JR]

Haven't read all the post to this topic but "power" needs to be defined.  I view power as torque.  I cannot have enough low end torque as long as my tires still hold the road.  The low end torque is what I want to ge the heavy beast rolling.  Now horse-power is nice once rolling along I would trade torque for horse-power-generally speaking.

Me Too!!! I definately am no speed freak, rarely going over the triple digit mark. I like the torque...seat in pants power you get when you need it.

[HUBBARD]

I drag raced for 35yrs and we always said TQ will get you there and HP will keep there.

'am OTIS, how old was you when you started drag-racin'?  9?      Later--HUBBARD  

[Jerry/MD]

The first time I had the BSR on my new stock CVO Road Glide I got a real appreciation for touring performance. I found I had to downshift more on this bike compared to my Fullsac equiped 09 SEUC...which I traded in. I suspect a decrease in hp and torque...which was very noticeable on hills.

[Half_Crazy]

I was getting ragged on today at work... the guy just can't understand why I would pay all that money to make my bike faster. "It's about tradition" "The speed limit is 65" "If you want fast buy a pocket rocket" "It's not a race bike, it's a cruiser".

OK, if it's all about tradition and power is not important, why do Harleys come standard with 103" motors now? Why not just put fuel injection on the Shovelhead?

The Phrase "Power is not important" was NOT coined by some dude on a Road King with a 120R on it. And the phrase "Size doesn't matter" was NOT coined by the wife of some dude with a 10" johnson.

[Twolanerider]

the phrase "Size doesn't matter" was NOT coined by the wife of some dude with a 10" johnson.

?

[Half_Crazy]

I wasn't expecting to see somebody's johnson 1st thing this morning. I'm feeling inadequate... my johnson is only an 18, not a big 35 like that...

[RioGlide]

There's no substitute for cubic inches.  Size does matter!  But power = heat.  More power, more heat.

If you're aiming for straight line speed, HP is important.  For usable roll-on acceleration, TQ is your friend.

Most bang for the buck comes at Stage 1 - AC, free flowing exhaust, tune to match.  Going past to cams, heads, etc could affect reliability.

More power to scoot away from a dangerous situation is never a dangerous thing.  Agreed that the stock setups are amazingly underpowered, but we all know the reasons why they come the way they do from the showroom floor.

[charles05663]

More power to scoot away from a dangerous situation is never a dangerous thing.  Agreed that the stock setups are amazingly underpowered, but we all know the reasons why they come the way they do from the showroom floor.

So HD can sell more stage 1 kits and race tuners?   

[Half_Crazy]

Most bang for the buck comes at Stage 1 - AC, free flowing exhaust, tune to match.

Yup. The most gains for dollars spent. Once you go beyond peripheral bolt-on stuff the gains per $$$ drops. The first dozen HP cost like $1200- $1800. The next dozen costs $3000... the next dozen from there costs $5,000...

How much do we really need?

[duranh]

There's no substitute for cubic inches.  Size does matter!  But power = heat.  More power, more heat.

If you're aiming for straight line speed, HP is important.  For usable roll-on acceleration, TQ is your friend.

Most bang for the buck comes at Stage 1 - AC, free flowing exhaust, tune to match.  Going past to cams, heads, etc could affect reliability.

More power to scoot away from a dangerous situation is never a dangerous thing.  Agreed that the stock setups are amazingly underpowered, but we all know the reasons why they come the way they do from the showroom floor.

There actually is a substitute for CI, a well built 95" will smoke a 110 with a cam and exhaust every day, it is all about the head work and proper cam sizing. However, power is important both for HP and TQ. On my 'Sturgis' trip we had way to much packed and did elevations from -41ft to 12436ft I would have hated to try that on a stock bike, even with a 110"