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2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« on: September 01, 2011, 02:35:28 PM »

Last night when I got home from work I noticed that a group of 4 weights on my rear tire were laying on my garage floor next to my rear tire. Will it be an issue to ride to the dealer on Sat morning to get the wheel re-balanced and weights re-installed? Yesterday it was 108 degrees and it even gets hotter in the garage but they shouldn't have fallen off.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 02:39:21 PM »

They fall off....find the gooey mess they left behind and clean it well and stick on new ones..chrome new ones....I carry some in my saddle bag with an alcohol wipe..But sine I reapplied mine(correctly) they have not budged... :nixweiss:
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 03:40:27 PM »

Dynabeads my friend!!! I sell them and I use them in my own bikes.


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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 03:41:22 PM »

Yeah, it's normally pretty easy to see where they were. Just buy a new strip, cut off the same amount of weight, use a little tape to locate where they were, and clean the area well, and finish with alcohol and attached the new weights.  You'll be as good as new.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 04:06:19 PM »

Yeah, it's normally pretty easy to see where they were. Just buy a new strip, cut off the same amount of weight, use a little tape to locate where they were, and clean the area well, and finish with alcohol and attached the new weights.  You'll be as good as new.

 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:    You don't need a dealer to handle this.  After you've marked the location, cleaned the surface, etc. as noted by mrmagloo, remove the backing from the adhesive strip on the new weights (do not touch the adhesive surface), carefully align and install the weights, then PRESS FIRMLY to make sure the adhesive is in intimate contact with the rim over it's entire surface.  Let the adhesive build strength for a few hours, then you're done.


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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 04:16:34 PM »

Where's a good place to buy the weights? Chrome or non Chrome. They don't have to be chrome plated for rear wheel because you can't see them anyway. But if I can find chrome I guess I can use them. Auto Parts Store or Dealer?
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 04:17:50 PM »

It actually helps to ensure a good bond by heating the adhesive with a hair dryer a bit. Don't go overboard, or let the adhesive get contaminated with dust or anything.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2011, 04:26:38 PM »

Where's a good place to buy the weights? Chrome or non Chrome. They don't have to be chrome plated for rear wheel because you can't see them anyway. But if I can find chrome I guess I can use them. Auto Parts Store or Dealer?

If you don't care about appearance, stop by a local high volume automotive tire store and see what they have.  You're more likely to get fresh weights from a high volume tire store than you would be from the typical Harley shop.  Some of the auto places have nice looking weights.  What with all the fancy wheels folks are putting on cars and trucks these days they have to have nice looking weights as well.


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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 04:31:59 PM »

Thanks Jerry and everyone that gave me feedback. I really didn't want to take it back to the dealer for this issue.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 04:36:03 PM »

Dynabeads my friend!!! I sell them and I use them in my own bikes.


 http://www.innovativebalancing.com/motorcycle.htm

Cool. Haven't used them on my new ride but had good luck with another bike.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 10:42:34 AM »

They work good and best of all, no weights on those shiny chrome wheels. Clean look!
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 10:52:28 AM »

I've never tried the beads, but did read an article in MCN and they pretty well bashed the product. I can't recall the exact details but I was considering trying them, but gave up the thought after reading that. I think they might have actually installed the beads then ran it on a spin balancer before and after, and noticed no improvement.  I'll have to see if I can find the article.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 11:40:40 AM »

The manufacturer tell you that you can't use a spin balancer even with the bead in it. Here is from their website:

Q: Can I put the tire on a balancer to see if it's working?

A: No. Dyna Beads operates on physics principles, and requires the tire assembly to be in motion against a road surface to detect the exact counterbalance position. An electronic balancer has a solid, fixed mount, and does not allow the tire to react to imbalance.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 11:55:44 AM »

I was a bit concerned about a static balance as well. It's what we're all used to. But I put my nerves to the test and had the shop install new tires on the Wing without balancing them, just install the dynabeads. It was a good choice as it runs smooth as glass but I was only able to put on about 150 miles on it.
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Re: 2010 Rear Tire Wheel Weights Fell Off
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 12:19:56 PM »

The manufacturer tell you that you can't use a spin balancer even with the bead in it. Here is from their website:

Q: Can I put the tire on a balancer to see if it's working?

A: No. Dyna Beads operates on physics principles, and requires the tire assembly to be in motion against a road surface to detect the exact counterbalance position. An electronic balancer has a solid, fixed mount, and does not allow the tire to react to imbalance.

What do you expect them to say? Of course they'd say that!  Again, I have no personal skin in this, but that logic doesn't hold. The beads don't detect anything, they are flung out against the inside of the tire as a result of centrifical force, and I'd guess they would go to the point that is furthest from the center axis - which very likely may not be the lightest section of the tire.  Then as the tire rotates, I would think the area of deflection would bounce the beads constantly. I sure would like to see a demo of a transparent tire to view what's really going on in there.

To be honest, I think most riders can't tell a tire that's less than an ounce off balance. As such, I have to lean towards MCN's side on this one. I don't think the beads necessarily hurt anything, but they sure can't be as accurate as a good spin balance. However, it is true that a good spin balance will eventually go off as the tire wears, so that needs to be considered.

Frankly, if someone did a test using a road force spin balancer, that would put the question to rest for sure. There's absolutely no way the bead guys could dispute that test.
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