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[BobD]

Well, I completed the Rinehart install on Friday/Saturday, and I have to say that, given the price of this system, [highlight]I'm disappointed by a few aspects[/highlight].
Finally, it's definitely [highlight]too noisy[/highlight] for me (and I do like noisy systems!) as every time you open the throttle, it breaks the vox on the intercom, deafening me and the mrs. If you adjust the vox so that it doesn't do that, you get about one word in three when you talk.

Do they do quieter baffles for the True Duals?

Jim

I read your post Jim and felt real sympathy for you all the way through. As I've posted previously on this site, I to experienced the Rinehart disappointment. I had a set installed by my dealer back in '05 on a Road Glide. My dealer said it was the worst exhaust install they ever undertook. Two techs spent over 3 hours trying to make things fit and look reasonably good. They blued immediately. Then the right muffler turned yellow soon after. The biggest disappointment was the noise though. They were so loud none of my friends would ride behind me. I spent another $100 on "quiet" baffles which were a real joke. Just as noisy as the original "performance' baffles. Exhaust systems this noisy are exactly what is drawing EPA attention and bringing legislation to reduce public nuisance.
I do admit Rineharts look cool. Beyond that, they're nothing more than an over-rated, over-priced fad with marginal product quality at best but that's just my opinion.

[Eqcons]

Everytime I get serious about wanting to buy a set Rineharts for my bike, a thread like this pops up.  Last year it was the cracking issues, now it's fitment issues.  I hope you get it resolved, Eqcons, and I'll be watching along with TexTaz and others, to see how this ends up.

Well, they do feel like a quality, well made, product to touch and look at - you just get the feeling that they are kind of hoping that we won't notice these little problems..... Obviously to solve the cracking problem they went to the "P-Bracket" fixing, and that's given this subsidiary problem with the heatshield, and they haven't gone to the trouble of a bigger heatshield, or a thinner "P-Bracket".  And there can be no excuse for shipping a part with a cosmetic finish in the same bag as nuts and bolts.  Product is good, they just cut corners on the little things, but still charge the price you'd expect for something with all the wrinkles ironed out, which they aren't as far as I can see from my system....

Jim

[Eqcons]

I read your post Jim and felt real sympathy for you all the way through. As I've posted previously on this site, I to experienced the Rinehart disappointment. I had a set installed by my dealer back in '05 on a Road Glide. My dealer said it was the worst exhaust install they ever undertook. Two techs spent over 3 hours trying to make things fit and look reasonably good. They blued immediately. Then the right muffler turned yellow soon after. The biggest disappointment was the noise though. They were so loud none of my friends would ride behind me. I spent another $100 on "quiet" baffles which were a real joke. Just as noisy as the original "performance' baffles. Exhaust systems this noisy are exactly what is drawing EPA attention and bringing legislation to reduce public nuisance.
I do admit Rineharts look cool. Beyond that, they're nothing more than an over-rated, over-priced fad with marginal product quality at best but that's just my opinion.

You've kind of crystallised my fears with that post....     Yes, my friends are the same - yesterday I was pretty unpopular with the guys behind.  And yet, with these newer ones, they claim

"New design torque-chamber baffles produce a deep, rich sound with less objectional noise; only 96 dB at half-throttle (2500 rpm)"  

So I expected them not to be as bad as they are.   I noticed the quiet baffle option on the Drag Specialties site after my original post here, and wondered if that would help, but your reply tells me I should save myself the $110 + shipping from the US I guess.

The quality seems to be there, they just haven't finished the job.......

[Eqcons]

Reply from Bub. Also a little disappointing - my email was written in friendly tones, and the reply is very formal, asking for information I already supplied:

"Thank you for your comments and I will share them with the appropriate
departments.  As for the heat shield not fitting correctly and the other
with chrome bubbles; if you can provide me with the info below, we will
handle an exchange for you.  Please give us a call so that we may
discuss in detail your needs.  Also, there are stealth baffles available
through your local dealer.

To obtain warranty service, you must provide us with a copy of your
dated receipt as proof of the purchase.  Make sure your name, shipping
address and daytime phone number are included.  
  
To expedite your claim, please include a short note including
* Bike Make, Model & Year
* Exhaust Type & Part Number (if available)
* Problem
  
When we have received the copy of your receipt, a company representative
will contact you shortly."

I'll keep you all informed.....

Jim

[Big Al]

Reply from Bub. Also a little disappointing - my email was written in friendly tones, and the reply is very formal, asking for information I already supplied:

"Thank you for your comments and I will share them with the appropriate
departments.  As for the heat shield not fitting correctly and the other
with chrome bubbles; if you can provide me with the info below, we will
handle an exchange for you.  Please give us a call so that we may
discuss in detail your needs.  Also, there are stealth baffles available
through your local dealer.

To obtain warranty service, you must provide us with a copy of your
dated receipt as proof of the purchase.  Make sure your name, shipping
address and daytime phone number are included.  
  
To expedite your claim, please include a short note including
* Bike Make, Model & Year
* Exhaust Type & Part Number (if available)
* Problem
  
When we have received the copy of your receipt, a company representative
will contact you shortly."

I'll keep you all informed.....

Jim

Jim

Looks like a 'stock' answer so I don't think you need to be TOO sensitive.  AND they are saying the right words about replacement etc so that is a good sign!

All the best on this, we're watching! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[Twolanerider]

Everytime I get serious about wanting to buy a set Rineharts for my bike, a thread like this pops up.  Last year it was the cracking issues, now it's fitment issues.  I hope you get it resolved, Eqcons, and I'll be watching along with TexTaz and others, to see how this ends up.

Even without the fitment and breakage issues; just too darned loud for my tastes.

[Eqcons]

Well, I'm getting friendly replies from Karen, and I think they are going to supply replacement heatshields, though I may have to pay shipping, which is fair enough, I think.   She tells me "The stealth baffles are only about 15% quieter, maybe a little more if you wrap them."  Can't make my mind up on whether to throw another $110 + shipping at these to see if I can get the noise level down.....

Again, I'll keep you all informed.

Jim

[Boatman]

I had the Rineharts, bought the quiet baffles (wrapped them) and were still too loud for me.  But I'm probably the exception.  I put the stock pipes/mufflers back on.  

[Eqcons]

I had the Rineharts, bought the quiet baffles (wrapped them) and were still too loud for me.  But I'm probably the exception.  I put the stock pipes/mufflers back on.  

No, I'm probably just as exceptional as you! :-)  What do they mean by "wrapping" them?  I don't suppose you still have the quiet baffles, and would care to sell them, do you?

Jim

[Eqcons]

Well, I have to comment on the service from Karen at Rinehart.  Prompt, friendly replies, and has organised replacement heatshields for me.  

Certainly nothing wrong with their after sales service, it appears to be first class.

Jim

[WFP]

What do they mean by "wrapping" them?

Probably: Baffles can be wrapped with fiberglass packing...a few years ago, a buddy remoed the fiberglass from his RK's Porker Pipes...they were definately "Tinny" without the glass packing.

Personally, I just don't feel mine are that loud as is, I have the "torque" baffle.

[Eqcons]

Probably: Baffles can be wrapped with fiberglass packing...a few years ago, a buddy remoed the fiberglass from his RK's Porker Pipes...they were definately "Tinny" without the glass packing.

Personally, I just don't feel mine are that loud as is, I have the "torque" baffle.

Yes, I suspected that it meant wrapping with fibreglass wool, just seemed strange....  Wonder if the come with extra fibreglass to do that?

Mine are seriously loud...  :-/ How do I tell if I have the "torque" baffle or not?  Just the ID?  What do the call the baffle they come with as standard?

Jim

[WFP]

Mine are seriously loud...  :-/ How do I tell if I have the "torque" baffle or not?  Just the ID?  What do the call the baffle they come with as standard?
Jim

I don't know!  I am just going by what I ordered from Eastern Performance who called it the Torque Baffle.

I think it was BuB Part #1800-0242

In my garage, yes they are very loud but outside at idle...they did not make the cops turn their head.  Now, the Big Radius on the SED, they have a little more "Bark" than the Rineharts...so I may not be the best judge.

/Bill

[Steve_G]

If there is a question about what wrapping the baffles is, it's really pretty simple.  Unless your mufflers have permanent baffles, the rest are wrapped with fiberglass matting.  You just take out your baffles, remove the old fiberglass- or what's left of it- put the new matting around the baffle, tape it up with masking tape, and put the baffles back in.  The mfg. of the mufflers has the stuff cut to size so you don't have to measure it all out.  Hope this helps.-  8-)-Steve

[Fired00d]

Well, I have to comment on the service from Karen at Rinehart.  Prompt, friendly replies, and has organised replacement heatshields for me.  

Certainly nothing wrong with their after sales service, it appears to be first class.

Jim

Jim,
Glad to hear that Karen is taking care of you, and you are getting this resolved (at least the bad parts) to your satisfaction.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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