Don't know that I followed every post... but I simply took my dremel and carefully cut the two spot welds on each of the stock tailpipes, then ground them smooth so I could pull out the baffles and glass on my '11. I've been running them completely 'open' and have no problem hearing the stereo. It's not the loudest bike on the road, but it sounds more like a Harley than it does any other bike. If that's still too loud for you, simply put the baffles back in without the glass and see how that sounds to you. I'm sure you could find someone skilled enough to tack a couple spot welds back to prevent them from creeping out, which under heavy acceleration might be an issue. I like the sound of the Reinharts, Fullsac, and especially the Perfect Stroms, but it seems everyone has them, and I like to be a little different at times. Just a thought.