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[Aceboympk]

I don't think that's going to work for him - 2007 SEUC Need Saddlebags, Seat, Rear Passenger Floorboards, Tour Pac.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

True that!  I put in a claim for $8500 last year when I dumped my BMW K1200RS.  First time I've had an insurance claim on a vehicle ever.  My insurance without a claim was $250 for the year.  My insurance after the claim $500 for the year.

Point is, it's a waste of time for you to have your bags stolen.  Contemplate and debate the merits and reality of insurance claims.  Now go for a ride, get off your bike and come back to find your stuff gone.  I don't think you'll be thinking of how your insurance is going to handle it.

[Mano]

Agreed, but when year after year reports of specific problems are not dealt with; one may come to whatever conclusions they may.  The bottom line is essential for any business; consequently it appears 'they' turn a deaf ear to so many nagging items that should be corrected before the product is released.  Customers are not supposed to be considered the test bed for manufacturing.  It's understandable when something slips by once in a while.  But the question arises when it becomes painfully obvious and corrections could be made in a following year model or even through recall or service during the warranty period. The first year after the type bag holders were used, they should have changed to a more secure hardware.  We shouldn't have to be going to the aftermarket for these types of fixes. 
This was so well said I had to bring it up again.

Very well said Eagleye07

[Aceboympk]

I bought my first Harley earlier this year.  Blew the engine a few months later.  Nothing I did, just chit happens.

Now I bought my second Harley which is this CVO FLHTCUSE2.

One thing I learned this summer about Harley: they remind me of that saying about boats.

No worries.  I don't care.  I had so much fun riding MY Harley.  No other bike beat it and I've been riding for 28 years including Honda (still own a RC51 that I use for track days), Yamaha, Suzuki (LC1500), Ducati (Monster and ST4), and my last bike a BMW K1200RS.

It's not that I enjoy writing checks to the stealer, I don't.  If I wanted a Harley Owner Needs a Dependable Alternative (Honda), I'd grab a VTX1800 Touring and call it the day.

Nothing beats the sound and thrill of riding a Harley.  It will be a great day when their "within a foot" quality improves.  Until then, it is what it is.  Let your wallet do the voting.

[dayne66]

And here is a pic of the same wrench on the bolt for the rear bracket.  With these two bolts removed the bag can be easily removed...brackets and all.

Thanks...I didn't think I was imagining it.   I did e-mail Brukas about this months ago...no response yet.

[mjb765]

2009 and later looks like this--bracket is part of support and does not come off so the Brukus kit would be more effective on the rear attachment point.

[PeterJ]

I hope this posting below is taken in the spirit of helpfulness that I intend it to be. I know I am only a Newbie on here but my concerns are I think justified. As well as a member of CVOHarley, I am also a member of the Harley Davidson Riders Club Great Britain (HDRCGB). On the HDRCGB forum there is a rule that there will be no postings about any subject that could be used to assist in the theft of a Harley or any equipment from that Harley. This includes discussions on how to overcome the digital security alarm and ignition lock outs for example.

What we have in the CVOHarley posting about Saddlebag Theft an aid on how to steal the bags. We have clear instructions on how to steal parts of the Harley in the Brukus video and in the words and photos that have over he last day or so been published here on this forum on how to defeat the security of the bike.

Surely these types of postings should be much less specific so as not provide a font of knowledge for the criminal element in our society. Maybe Brukus might want to look again at their promotional videos as well, in light of what I have just written.

I hope this posting does not cause offense because it is not intended to be.

And by the way I do have the Brukus bag attach bolts ready to be fitted to my ride once it is delivered.

[Aceboympk]

I hope this posting below is taken in the spirit of helpfulness that I intend it to be. I know I am only a Newbie on here but my concerns are I think justified. As well as a member of CVOHarley, I am also a member of the Harley Davidson Riders Club Great Britain (HDRCGB). On the HDRCGB forum there is a rule that there will be no postings about any subject that could be used to assist in the theft of a Harley or any equipment from that Harley. This includes discussions on how to overcome the digital security alarm and ignition lock outs for example.

What we have in the CVOHarley posting about Saddlebag Theft an aid on how to steal the bags. We have clear instructions on how to steal parts of the Harley in the Brukus video and in the words and photos that have over he last day or so been published here on this forum on how to defeat the security of the bike.

Surely these types of postings should be much less specific so as not provide a font of knowledge for the criminal element in our society. Maybe Brukus might want to look again at their promotional videos as well, in light of what I have just written.

I hope this posting does not cause offense because it is not intended to be.

And by the way I do have the Brukus bag attach bolts ready to be fitted to my ride once it is delivered.

Per to OP, seems like adding tamper proof hardware to mount the rack to the frame which requires a specialized tool would solve the problem.  Brukus can take that advice, and if not, we as end users can.  No offense taken by your post, but I'm confident a guy with a couple of wrenches can figure out to remove the rack just as fast as a dog can figure out to knock over the trash can to get at food inside it.  I appreciate the post because as an end user, I got warned and was given specific advice to fix a gaping hole in a security measure.

[kraut]

valid point, Peter.

But I'm afraid the Harley-Davidson-Saddlebag-Thieves-Community didn't wait for our little discussion on this board to find out how to stay in business  

Seems to be a specific american problem btw as I have never even heard of saddlebags or tourpacks stolen over here. Forced and emptied yes, but never stolen. Apparently no market for stolen saddlebags in Europe  

[smiley1049]

Can anyone say tamper proof tork bolts

[mjb765]

Can anyone say tamper proof tork bolts

Brukus makes the tamper proof torx bolts for the bags, all they need to do is put the tamper proof head on the bolts that hold the brackets.

[Aceboympk]

Brukus makes the tamper proof torx bolts for the bags, all they need to do is put the tamper proof head on the bolts that hold the brackets.

Now that we know that, if they don't voluntarily put the tamper proof head bolts that hold the brackets in the kit, we can ask for those.  Thanks for the head's up!

[Eagle Eye]

Hey guys, I'm not where I can post a pic of what they sent.  But from what I recall they include the tamper proof bolts in the package. 
No regular wrench is going to remove the hardware, once installed. 

[mjb765]

Hey guys, I'm not where I can post a pic of what they sent.  But from what I recall they include the tamper proof bolts in the package. 
No regular wrench is going to remove the hardware, once installed. 

What the people with the pre-09 bikes are up against is that the bracket that those tamper proofer bolts go in to can be removed with a 7/16" wrench and the bag and brackets will come off together along with those tamper proof screws. On 09 and later the rear bolt on the bag screws into  a bracket that is bolted to the frame in 2 places and not so easy to get off quickly.

[Aceboympk]

What the people with the pre-09 bikes are up against is that the bracket that those tamper proofer bolts go in to can be removed with a 7/16" wrench and the bag and brackets will come off together along with those tamper proof screws. On 09 and later the rear bolt on the bag screws into  a bracket that is bolted to the frame in 2 places and not so easy to get off quickly.

MJB,

Great point.  Sounds like owners of pre-09 bikes should invest in some tamper resistant bolts to attach the bracket to the frame, which is exactly what I'm going to do.

Regards,
Mark

[SCRM-R]

As previously stated, I sent a message to Brukus about this.  Here is their reply (italics added):

I hear you on the bracket bolts. I do believe that is something we can sell you. Every one in a while someone contacts us about this. Most of the models the brackets are hard to get to - or at least the front ones are,  so it's not worthwhile for us to package and push this. But I will check and let you know the cost for 4 of the length security bolts you would need (or, I guess, even 2 would confound a thief) and let you know if we have them in stock and how much., Really appreciate you contacting us with your concern. We love to hear from customers.

Kay

Brukus' tamper resistant screws are a T-40.  I already have some SS 1/4-20 T-27 tamper resistant machine screws (they are just like the Brukus screws, just T-27 instead of T-40); I think I will use them to replace the bracket screws.  Maybe the different sized tamper resistant screws will really confuse a potential thief!