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[East Coast]

I've read a bunch of threads regarding the installation of various accessories on a CVO streetglide but I'm still uncertain about installing the RT Zumo 665.

What needs to be installed to use the Road Tech Zumo 665 on a FLHXSE2? I want to mount the unit on the fairing and I would like to access the XM radio via the GPS through the stock radio and have the voice prompts through the radio as well.

thanks in a advance!

Erich

[bissjim]

It is an easy install. A through the fairing mount is nice but you will not be able to adjust the angle of the GPS screen once it is installed. It may end up not at the angle you prefer. A handlebar mount is adjustable so you may like that aspect of it. All the ires will run inside the cowling. You will have a power wire, you can connect to the cigarette lighter for power, this power goes off with the bike so the GPS will shut down and turn on with the ignition switch. Mount the GPS XM puck on top of the radio it will work there just fine. Run a 3.5mm Stereo extension cable from the audio output port (on the wiring harness) to the Auxiliary Input on the front of the radio (or install an additional Aux input port on the back of the radio) and you are done unless you want to make and take phone calls via the GPS Bluetooth interface. If you want the phone call function buy an H-D Bomm (www.hdbomm.com) and you are finished every thing. The radio must be in the Aux input mode in order for you to hear every thing from the GPS, turn prompts, XM, MP3 and phone.

The 665 is a nice unit with nexrad radar which comes in handy.

Jim

[Twolanerider]

It is an easy install. A through the fairing mount is nice but you will not be able to adjust the angle of the GPS screen once it is installed.

That's an easily defeatable shortcoming.  When I added the fairing mounted GPS to the 05 a few months ago Chip was kind enough to send me a link to a small intermediate articulating bracket that mounted between the fairing mount and the GPS back mount.  Now the thing can swivel anywhere you want it.

Just did a quick look and couldn't find the link he'd sent.  Send a PM his way for the info again.  The part is out there tough.  Shipping and all it was less than ten bucks also.

[Dood2]

 Run a 3.5mm Stereo extension cable from the audio output port (on the wiring harness) to the Auxiliary Input on the front of the radio (or install an additional Aux input port on the back of the radio)

If you plug the GPS into the Auxiliary Input don't you disable the radio an IPOD sound from coming through the speakers.?

[East Coast]

Thanks Bissjim for the reply.
I would like to have the unit wired inside the fairing without using the cigarette lighter. The HD catalog states this unit is not compatable with the 2011/2012CVO Streetglide but a few members have it installed on there Streetglides. I'm pretty handy in the garage but wiring isn't a strong point for me so I would have the dealer do the work. I'm looking for some information to bring with me to the dealer. I plan on going back to the dealer soon to speak to one of the tech's to see if there are up to speed on this install.

Twolanerider,
That sounds like a must have for the fairing mount and would appreciate any assistance hunting down the accessory to allow the unit to swivel on the fairing mount.   

Thanks again for the replies!

[Twolanerider]

Twolanerider,
That sounds like a must have for the fairing mount and would appreciate any assistance hunting down the accessory to allow the unit to swivel on the fairing mount.   

Thanks again for the replies!

Send a pm to Chip ( SBB ) for a link to the part.   That's who was good enough to send the info to me originally and now I've lost track of it. 

[Midnight Rider]

Run a 3.5mm Stereo extension cable from the audio output port (on the wiring harness) to the Auxiliary Input on the front of the radio (or install an additional Aux input port on the back of the radio)
If you plug the GPS into the Auxiliary Input don't you disable the radio an IPOD sound from coming through the speakers.?

If you run the GPS outputs to the AUX input on the radio, yes, you lose all other inputs on the radio IF you want the GPS to talk to you through the speakers.  In this particular case, there would be no advantage in buying the Roadtech 665 over the regular Zumo 665.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the main advantage of the Roadtech (HD) version is that it will allow full functionality of the radio while still talking to you for directions IF you also install the NIM (Navigation Interface Module) that HD makes.  The NIM wiring harness is not stock on the SESG, so that would have to be added as well...that is the reason they (HD) say the RT 660/665 will not work on the SESG.  But it can be done, and has been done by some members here.  The only thing you CAN'T do with the RT version, NIM, and wiring harness is listen to MP3 tunes loaded onto the Roadtech 660/665...if you want to do that, you still have to have the stereo patch cord from the unit to the AUX input, but who GAS about the MP3 capabilites of the RT when you've got XM, Ipod, FM, MP3 CD, and AM on the radio?  I'm also assuming that the SESG has the XM module already on the radio?  If so, the only extra advantage of the Roadtech 665 over the 660 is the weather radar function which requires the Garmin XM antenna module.  So, if the SESG already has the HD XM radio module and antenna, the RT 665 would only be using the Garmin XM function for Radar, and if for some reason one wanted to have that XM inputting to the radio, which would still require the use of the 3.5mm stereo cable to the AUX input on the radio, and you're back to square one.

There are folks on here who know a lot more about the electronic functions on the HK radio and how it all interfaces with both regular Garmin products, and the Roadtech version of the same product, than I do, so someone please correct me if I've misinterpreted anything in the sequence of operation stated above.  But either way, it can be done.  It all depends on how important a "seamless" audible GPS direction is to you.

[mjb765]

If you run the GPS outputs to the AUX input on the radio, yes, you lose all other inputs on the radio IF you want the GPS to talk to you through the speakers.  In this particular case, there would be no advantage in buying the Roadtech 665 over the regular Zumo 665.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the main advantage of the Roadtech (HD) version is that it will allow full functionality of the radio while still talking to you for directions IF you also install the NIM (Navigation Interface Module) that HD makes.  The NIM wiring harness is not stock on the SESG, so that would have to be added as well...that is the reason they (HD) say the RT 660/665 will not work on the SESG.  But it can be done, and has been done by some members here.  The only thing you CAN'T do with the RT version, NIM, and wiring harness is listen to MP3 tunes loaded onto the Roadtech 660/665...if you want to do that, you still have to have the stereo patch cord from the unit to the AUX input, but who GAS about the MP3 capabilites of the RT when you've got XM, Ipod, FM, MP3 CD, and AM on the radio?  I'm also assuming that the SESG has the XM module already on the radio?  If so, the only extra advantage of the Roadtech 665 over the 660 is the weather radar function which requires the Garmin XM antenna module.  So, if the SESG already has the HD XM radio module and antenna, the RT 665 would only be using the Garmin XM function for Radar, and if for some reason one wanted to have that XM inputting to the radio, which would still require the use of the 3.5mm stereo cable to the AUX input on the radio, and you're back to square one.

There are folks on here who know a lot more about the electronic functions on the HK radio and how it all interfaces with both regular Garmin products, and the Roadtech version of the same product, than I do, so someone please correct me if I've misinterpreted anything in the sequence of operation stated above.  But either way, it can be done.  It all depends on how important a "seamless" audible GPS direction is to you.

TC....FYI..the SESG does not come with the XM module from the factory...that was an entire separate thread about adding the 6B  connector to install it. Then you need the bracket to mount the module under the radio since there is no room on top since you have the IPOD module and amp up there already.


Erich...see if this thread hepls....

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=66425.0

[East Coast]

Thanks fella's. All good ideas above but as mentioned theCVO streetglide isnt set up for a fixed mount Zumo 665 and I would really like to go the seemless route.

I did read that, thanks Mike. I'll show it to the tech's but it seems to address a different issue in that it refers to the XM module and other accessories. I just dont know if that will work?

I'm going to start yet another topic to see if anyone who had the Zumo 665 installed on the 2011 CVO streetglide at a dealer. Perhaps they can provide an itemized list of the parts used?

[TIF2]

I have the RT 665 on my FLHXSE2. It is not a paticularly hard mod - it is rather tedious - and the method I came up with is a "no easily going back" mod. However, once completed. it puts the SESG2/3 in the baselined "Touring" wiring so that any and all HD electronic accessories can be used. I would suggest going to the dealer and get some proper color-coded wire so that the bike can be serviced properly should any issue arise. If all you are doing is adding the NIM, you do not need to buy an NUOH (Non-Ultra Overlay Harness). The bottom line to cut the connector being used for the ipod module and make it a fully pinned "6B" connection. Go here and start reading at reply #38:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=52965.30

Now - the thread above is specific to adding a CB module but creating the 6B connector is the same for all future accessories. The one thing you will need to do for the NIM only install is to save a good length of the yellow pair wires (CAN + and CAN - ) presently connected on the 35 pin connector. To do so - disassemble the harness on the 23 pin side of the radio enough to cut the yellow wires so you can swing them over to the NIM harness and attach them to the yellow wires inside the NIM harness.  The NIM harness will be pinned to the 35 pin connector on the back of the radio.

Additionally - I would pull the radio and send it to Tony at Iron Cross Audio. Have him add the rear aux cable. Great guy, great company, and simply OUTSTANDING quality of work. This will allow for XM and SD card audio w/o needing a cord plugged into the front of the H/K unit.

I had a ton of pics of the wiring required but alas, disk failure trashed them all. If anyone knows of a good app to create wiring diagrams I'll see if I can do a full "How To" and post it up. You can also PM me your number and we can discuss in detail if you are still confused. 

Hope this helps

[mjb765]

I have the RT 665 on my FLHXSE2. It is not a paticularly hard mod - it is rather tedious - and the method I came up with is a "no easily going back" mod. However, once completed. it puts the SESG2/3 in the baselined "Touring" wiring so that any and all HD electronic accessories can be used. I would suggest going to the dealer and get some proper color-coded wire so that the bike can be serviced properly should any issue arise. If all you are doing is adding the NIM, you do not need to buy an NUOH (Non-Ultra Overlay Harness). The bottom line to cut the connector being used for the ipod module and make it a fully pinned "6B" connection. Go here and start reading at reply #38:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=52965.30

Now - the thread above is specific to adding a CB module but creating the 6B connector is the same for all future accessories. The one thing you will need to do for the NIM only install is to save a good length of the yellow pair wires (CAN + and CAN - ) presently connected on the 35 pin connector. To do so - disassemble the harness on the 23 pin side of the radio enough to cut the yellow wires so you can swing them over to the NIM harness and attach them to the yellow wires inside the NIM harness.  The NIM harness will be pinned to the 35 pin connector on the back of the radio.

Additionally - I would pull the radio and send it to Tony at Iron Cross Audio. Have him add the rear aux cable. Great guy, great company, and simply OUTSTANDING quality of work. This will allow for XM and SD card audio w/o needing a cord plugged into the front of the H/K unit.

I had a ton of pics of the wiring required but alas, disk failure trashed them all. If anyone knows of a good app to create wiring diagrams I'll see if I can do a full "How To" and post it up. You can also PM me your number and we can discuss in detail if you are still confused. 

Hope this helps

I knew Rich would come through with instructions!!!

[legalley]

Be Sure To Check Out Your Other Post!

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=68440.0

[Midnight Rider]

Great...I am happy to be set straight.  That's what great about this place...you can always find someone who knows more than you do...and that's always a good thing.

[legalley]

Two Six-Packs a couple of buddies (Hopefully one is an electronic tech) and a long afternoon can get that done!

[TIF2]

Be Sure To Check Out Your Other Post!

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=68440.0

Good write-up and thanks for posting it up. I'll add a couple of things:

1. The CAN (+) and CAN (-) signals (Y/OR and Y/V) are not required on the 6B connector. They allow for accessories to be read (or "seen") by the H/K head unit on the 35-pin side (J28). They have no function on the 23-pin side (J27). The NIM harness contains the CAN pair merely for continuity between additional accessories, not because it is required for connectivity between J27 and J28.

2.If you do not provide the additional pins of the standard 6B connector (Pin 2 - Blue/Yellow, and Pin 15 - Violet/Grey) then CB and/or Intercom will not function. I'd wire them while doing the work to keep the option of adding them later open.

3. The NIM harness contains a 274B connection (8-pin Deutsch DTM series) for the iPod module. There is no reason to keep the stock iPod connector (274B) when creating the 6B connector. Once a proper 6B connection is available, the iPod connector (274B) is provided via the NIM harness. That is why I chose to "convert" my stock 274B connector to a 6B connector. THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE INSTALL OF AN NIM HARNESS!! If you are only adding an XM module, you need to retain the stock 274B connection in order for the iPod to function.

Hope this helps and good luck with your project