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[bissjim]

Run a 3.5mm Stereo extension cable from the audio output port (on the wiring harness) to the Auxiliary Input on the front of the radio (or install an additional Aux input port on the back of the radio)

If you plug the GPS into the Auxiliary Input don't you disable the radio an IPOD sound from coming through the speakers.?

He only wants to install the GPS. He does not need to install the 6B connector to do so unless he wants to also install a NIM or other acc that use the 6B connector.

To do what he wants all he needs to do is wire the Audio Output of the GPS to the Aux input on the radio. The ONLY way to listen to the functions of the GPS is via the Auxiliary Input. This of course changes if you install a NIM, then you can be listening to any function of the radio and it will be interrupted for a turn prompt only, you still need the Aux input if you want to listen to XM via the GPS, MP3, or a phone call.

Jim

[TIF2]

No. In order to hear MP3, XM via the 665 or a phone call you must use the Auxiliary input.

That's right - but actually, it will disable all other sources. The "Aux" input is just another "source" of audio. It can be phone, mp3 from Garmin, XM from Garmin, or any other audio where the output of the device is available on a 3.5mm male audio jack.

If the question was directed towards the ability for the NIM and turn-by-turn directions from the Roadtech 660/665 to interrupt the "aux" port then you are correct. The NIM will function to interrupt whatever source is using the Aux input exactly as it would if another source (CD, FM, iPod, etc) was selected.

In other words, you can be listening to XM via the 665 and the NIM will interrupt the audio for voice prompts even though "Aux" input (front 3.5mm jack, or rear if Iron Cross modifed) is selected on the H/K head unit.

[TIF2]

He only wants to install the GPS. He does not need to install the 6B connector to do so unless he wants to also install a NIM or other acc that use the 6B connector.

Jim

Hahaha - that's perfect Jim! Sometimes I can't see the forest becuase there are just too many damn tress in the way!

So to clarify:

The 665 can be added with very little effort (exaclty like the included instructions). It will play XM, mp3 via removeable media, and will also provide voice-prompts via the 3.5mm jack with the "Aux" port selected on the H/K head unit.

If voice prompts are desired with other sources selected (CD, FM, iPod, etc) then an NIM and a 6B "Audio Interconnect" is required to be added on the SESG2/3.

Erich - can you clarify your goal for the addition of the Roadtech 665?

[bissjim]

Lets not use the word "disable" in this post as it implies that the other functions of the radio such as FM, AM, CD, etc will no longer work. This is not what is actually happening. The Auxiliary input is just another source of audio which can be selected via the mode selector switch on the bars. You do not even see AUX as a source on the radio until you plug some thing into the Aux input port on the front of the radio or you do the Mod that adds an Aux input to the back of the radio. Plugging some thing into the Auxiliary Input port does not Disable and other function of the radio, it just adds another function to the radio's display which you still have to select as you would any other source such as FM, AM, CD, IPod, XM, Weather etc.

Jim

[TIF2]

Hmmmm - ok then.

Actually - it is EXACTLY what is happening. When the Aux button is selected, it disables all other sources from output.
FM signals are still being received by the antennae, as are XM signals. For each source selection, all other sources are disabled from the input to the internal amplifier. Semantics for sure, but when I turn off my light switch I "disable" the voltage going to the bulb, hence the light doesn't come on. I could easily wire the same bulb to a completely different power source, even different power technologies (coal, nuclear,etc) and the bulb would light every time as I cycled through each one. I am, in effect, enabling and disabling each "source" voltage via a switch. Same thing applies for the button on the head unit.

It is proper to discuss source selection as "disabled" or "enabled". "Enabling" (selecting) the Aux button disables all other input from further processing and amplification of the head unit. If it didn't, you would hear all available sources at all times through the speakers.

I appreciate your trying to simplify things from a concepts perspective, but sometimes it's just "1+1 = 2". If you (in the vernacular) can't learn (accept?) that 1+1= 2, it's hard to realize that 1,111,111 X 1,111,111 = 1,234,567,654,321.

Gotta LOVE the number "11" (blurb as a tribute to yesterday's date of 11.11.11)

[East Coast]

Hahaha - that's perfect Jim! Sometimes I can't see the forest becuase there are just too many damn tress in the way!

So to clarify:

The 665 can be added with very little effort (exaclty like the included instructions). It will play XM, mp3 via removeable media, and will also provide voice-prompts via the 3.5mm jack with the "Aux" port selected on the H/K head unit.

If voice prompts are desired with other sources selected (CD, FM, iPod, etc) then an NIM and a 6B "Audio Interconnect" is required to be added on the SESG2/3.

Erich - can you clarify your goal for the addition of the Roadtech 665?

Thanks to all that have replied, this is great info, but as stated above I see a lot of trees, This is my first touring bike so this is ALL new to me!

Jim,
My goal is this.

Mount the RT Zumo 665 to the fairing to gain a seemless hookup. I would like the option to listen to XM radio while riding the bike and have the GPS interrupt with voice prompts regardless of the selection I have on the radio.... AM, FM, CD, IPOD, Weather Band, etc while navigating. 

I am NOT interested in adding a CB or bike to bike communication set in the future. I am also not concerned with using the bluetooth while riding the bike.

Thanks again to everyone that replied!

Erich

[legalley]

In my Mod - I wired up the 6A/B so it will be available when I add the CB Radio. You are right, it is not required.

PS - Your Zumo 665 has a Bluetooth and Dial Pad for your Cell Phone built in! - It works great with a headset! IMHO put a 12V Jack in the Saddle Bag with your Ipod and keep your cell phone charged while riding.

[TIF2]

Mount the RT Zumo 665 to the fairing to gain a seemless hookup. I would like the option to listen to XM radio while riding the bike and have the GPS interrupt with voice prompts regardless of the selection I have on the radio.... AM, FM, CD, IPOD, Weather Band, etc while navigating.  

Erich

In order to obtain the functionality you want, you'll have to add the NIM and a 6B connector. Let me know how I can help. If you don't want to run a cord out of the inner faring to the front of the radio you'll need to add a rear aux jack. Again - Tony at ICA (Iron Cross Audio) is the MAN to contact  

In my Mod - I wired up the 6A/B so it will be available when I add the CB Radio. You are right, it is not required.

I read through your write-up and didn't see how you addressed the full pinning of a stock 6B connector (available on all Touring models except the SESG2/3). In order for CB and/or Intercom (rider-to-rider) to function you'll need to add the 2 additional signals as I outlined above. Without the Blue/Yellow wire and the Violet/Grey wire connected to the 23-pin side of the H/K then CB/Intercom will not be able to key a Mic nor interrupt the bus for voice over the Mic.

Like I stated, the CAN + and CAN (-) signals are not pinned (read - available) on the standard 6B connection on all other Touring models. If you look at the NIM harness you will see that there is a presence for the Blu/Yel and Vio/Gry wires. They are there to carry the 2 required signals to the 23-pin connector for CB/Intercom via a properly built 6B connection.

Maybe I missed it but how did you address the 2 additional signals required for connection to Pins 2 and 15 on the J27 side of the radio in order to make the CB/Intercom "availabe" when you install it? If you can add what you did for these signals to your original post on adding the NIM it would be a great resource for others.

I'm also curious as to your method in case it is easier/better than what I did, so let me know.

[legalley]

As far as the CB set-up. Two additonal wires are to be added per the CB installation instructions. Again, you are correct. Two additional signals are required for connection to Pins 2 and 15 on the J27 side of the radio in order to make the CB/Intercom "available" when you install it. I did not do this yet, as I believe that the CB kit contains the correct parts to perform the wiring mod. If not, a little jerry-rigging is required. - I Like YOU! There aren't many smart electronic guys out there! My biggest concern is that the PTT switch housing is not available in chrome! (YET).

As far as the radio rear AUX input Jack, there are at least two post that are relevant to modifying the radio. One encourages you to CUT the trace on the circuit board. DON'T DO IT! Another shows you the correct INDUCTOR to remove in order to have the AUX input displayed on your H/K Radio. I did the mod myself, BUT you must have a very small low wattage soldering iron to do the task. AND a BIG magnifying glass is a must! The maximum risk is $1,000 if you really mess up, so I chose to do it myself and it works GREAT!!!    

[East Coast]

Thanks to all for helping me with this and extending offers for future assistance!!!

TIF2,
 If I run a cable to the Aux plug what gets omittted, the NIM and I would still need the 6B connector? One other question, is the wire which would plug into the Aux port be supplied with the GPS?

[Midnight Rider]

Not answering for TIF2, but if all you want to do is have the GPS voice commands, MP3, and XM play through the radio via the AUX input, then all you need is a power supply to the GPS and a 3.5mm stereo patch cord for the AUX input from the GPS output.  It's your option whether to have the 3.5mm patch cord running to the back of the radio with a new AUX input, or run the wire to the front input already there.  No, the 3.5mm cord is not supplied with the GPS...you can get one at Radio Shack, or a number of places on line.  Wal Mart has them:  http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=15862711&findingMethod=rr  You can do a straight male to male, straight on one and and right angle on the other, or both ends with a right angle.  If you run to the front of the radio, I'd do that end with the 90 degree angle.

Adding the NIM makes the job a bit more complicated, but the end result is more functional overall.

[East Coast]

Thanks for the reply!