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Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« on: January 01, 2012, 12:26:16 PM »

Oakville muffling motorcycles

Motorcycle enthusiasts will have to quiet down their rides while driving around Oakville or face some steep fines in the near future.

Town Council voted Monday, to approve a bylaw, which seeks to muffle excessive motorcycle noise by limiting exactly how much sound a motorcycle in Oakville is allowed to make.

Under the bylaw, a motorcycle cannot be operated in Oakville if it emits any sound exceeding 92 dBA (decibels) from the exhaust outlet as measured at 50 centimetres by means of a sound level meter while the motorcycle is idling.

The bylaw also says a one, two, five or six-cylinder motorcycle cannot be driven in Oakville if its noise exceeds 96 dBA (at 2,000 RPM). A three or four-cylinder motorcycle cannot be driven if its noise exceeds 100 dBA (at 5,000 RPM).

The bylaw will not be enforced until July 1, 2012 to allow for a public education/awareness campaign.

A call for a bylaw to deal with excessive motorcycle noise came from residents near Tim Hortons at 49 Lakeshore Rd. W., where a group of motorcyclists gather on a regular basis in the summer.

Other residents have also voiced concern about motorcycles along Lakeshore Road.

“The Kensington Retirement Residence is located at 25 Lakeshore Rd. W., and the concern we have there is regarding the unnecessary and excessive noise, which is produced by a small number of inconsiderate motorcyclists who are travelling both west and east on Lakeshore Road,” said A.H. McCallum, a Kensington resident.

“The noise problems we have result from some of the guys, and ladies, too, who sit at the traffic lights, slip their clutches, rev their engines and produce an excessive (amount of) noise.”

The problem, McCallum said, is magnified when multiple motorcyclists are at the light.

He said the motorcycle clubs are not the problem, and called them considerate. At issue are those who modify their bikes to make them louder.

Motorcycle enthusiast Robert Treasure said if bikers making noise at the Tim Hortons is the problem, the owner should be required to act.

The Town, he said, does not need to punish all motorcyclists for the actions of a few.

Ward 2 Town and Regional Councillor Cathy Duddeck pointed out the section near the Tim Hortons where the motorcyclists gather is actually a public roadway meaning the Tim Hortons owner has no authority over them.

Treasure said it is not so much the modifications the bikers make to their motorcycles, but what they do with those modifications that can   cause problems.

“I think the bikes of a lot of these guys will pass the test. It’s what they are doing when they are revving it, and you can’t really catch them doing that,” he said.

“Also, there has been a lot of development at the lakeshore and all those buildings are going to amplify that noise. Even doing a test down there I think the results could be skewed by the wind noise around those buildings, the echo and things of that nature.”

Treasure said some motorcyclists believe having a very loud motorcycle is a safety issue as the noise alerts motorists they are near and therefore gets people to drive more carefully around these vulnerable vehicles.

In a report to council, Robert Ramsay, president of the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council, said there is no evidence to back the safety argument.

Treasure said he’s concerned his club and friends are going to be subjected to the noise test.

“I think a lot of them don’t realize this is going on and I think there is going to be quite a bit of outrage when they find out. These are not young kids, these are people in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s. They are well-intentioned people who are going to be very disappointed they are being singled out here in Oakville.” 

In a delegation to council, Luc Fournier, director of Policy and Government Relations for the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council, said he supported the proposed bylaw.

He said the excessively noisy motorcycles being targeted by this bylaw generate noise similar in intensity to a jackhammer or a rock concert.

Individuals convicted for violating the Town’s noise bylaw, which the motorcycle bylaw is a part of, could face a minimum fine of $400 and a maximum fine of $25,000 for the first offense.   

The maximum fine for any subsequent offence is $50,000.

This bylaw will be in effect all over Ontario by the end of 2012.
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 02:50:14 PM »

Oakville is in Halton region, police there tend to have the lowest enforcement rates than any other jurisdiction in the province.

Legislation is worthless unless it's enforced... I'd be really surprised if anybody gets charged with this!
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 07:49:41 PM »

Ish.... >:(
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 08:10:58 PM »

I note they did not say that the test had to be conducted with the sound level devise off at 45 degrees... if not you are measuring the engine pulses, which invalidate the test.  They should have said they would be ISO 9002 compliant in the testing... first guy that takes this to court will win
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 08:25:39 PM »

45 degrees at about 15 to 20 inches I think it is BUT if they are taking these readings on the side of the road....how much of the noise in the back ground is contributing to these now false readings. I think that too could be fought in court.
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2012, 10:56:29 AM »

yeah that would be the first thing I would ask...

Officer what was the background level in DBs?

Officer as an expert witness, please what is the definition of a DB?

Officer are you familiar with ISO 9002 rules for taking sound measurement?

Officer what is the date of the last calibration of your listening device...

Oh yeah you can have a lot of fun,,, Im going to go for a ride down there and troll for a ticket
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2012, 11:33:51 AM »

OK, just how loud are our bikes?
Any data for factory and aftermarket (D&D, V&H etc) ... Just wondering.
Kevin
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2012, 12:25:40 PM »

OK, just how loud are our bikes?
Any data for factory and aftermarket (D&D, V&H etc) ... Just wondering.
Kevin

Some stock Harley exhaust systems have been tested as high as 105db. Testing is very subjective
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Re: Oakville Ontario Canada muffling motorcycles
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2012, 06:11:03 PM »

OK, just how loud are our bikes?
Any data for factory and aftermarket (D&D, V&H etc) ... Just wondering.
Kevin

Maine has passed some very restrictive Motorcycle Noise Laws.
Portland, ME wanted to go for 85 DBs, but the HD Police Bikes would not pass that Db Level.
May 2011
 MAINE LEGISLATURE PASSES & GOVERNOR SIGNS LD 477 TO SEND LOUD BIKES FOR SOUND METER TESTING
http://www.mecalm.org/

Maine Adopts Practical Test for Measuring Motorcycle Sound
http://usridernews.com/2011/06/13/maine-adopts-practical-test-for-measuring-motorcycle-sound/

I believe the Key here is SAE-J2825 sound compliant.

http://www.supertrapp.com/product_sections/cat.asp?CatID=85
The SuperTrapp Stouts’ tapered core is minimally louder than stock for ’10 – ’12 FLH / FLT models. SuperTrapp Stout Slip-Ons provide a heavy, broad spread power curve right from idle w/ a 9.3 (16%) hp and 10.5 (14%) torque gain over stock (measured on a stock 2010 FLH). At 95.6 dB @ 2,000 rpm, or 2.4dB over stock. SuperTrapp Stouts are SAE-J2825 sound compliant.

Jackpot 4" Dyno Tuned mufflers
http://www.jackpotmufflers.com/dynotuned.htm
Our mufflers allow for a very deep tone in the cruise range, yet with a powerful sound at full throttle. Jackpot Dyno Tuned mufflers are SAE J2825 Sound Compliant


I believe that we will see more of these SAE-J2825 Sound Compliant Products.

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