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[Texas 103]

Anybody have the scoop on the '07 heads yet? Are they just another rehash of our  CVO 103 heads  or did the MOCO step up and put a real set on the "07's? See you in Sturgis>>> Greg  

[Thumper007]

don't no  about the heads, but i was wondering if the throttle body on the new motor is bigger

[jeffj]

I was talking with a friend on Saturday as he will be getting the Razor Red SERK3 in the middle of August

The dealer warned him that the 103" markings could still be on the heads as the display bikes at HD show were showing the 103" instead of the 110".

A lot of questions were asked at HD show and the MoCo had mentioned that the new 110" castings weren't available as of yet.....what ever that means

His dealer said it may ship that way as his bike will be a very early # SERK3

I quickly pointed out that I didn't think the MoCo would ship it that way but if they did my feelings were the bike might be a somewhat of a collectors item.

Surely the MoCo will have the correct casting of 110" when his bike arrives.

[Twolanerider]

I quickly pointed out that I didn't think the MoCo would ship it that way but if they did my feelings were the bike might be a somewhat of a collectors item.

Surely the MoCo will have the correct casting of 110" when his bike arrives.

Collector's item?  That'd drive me nuts.  Plus think of the hassle later when it was time to trade.  Lots of guys wouldn't believe you hadn't done "something."  Like trashed the original 110" and stuck a 103" back in it's place or just believe it never had a 110" to begin.  Nope, this would be a major bitching point for me.  Dealer would sign off on replacing heads when they became available if they wanted me to walk out with the bike this way.

[mr_magoo]

Can't believe they would cast a new head for the 110 in motor and leave the 103 script on them,  not even the motor company is that dumb well...

[jeffj]

I hear what you're saying on the wrong casting of 103" vs. 110" - I would not like it and it would be a deal breaker

Maybe some of our members can verify with their dealers that attended the show if the "Demos" at show had: 103" or 110" castings

[Fired00d]

On a positive note if they are still using the same heads wouldn't that mean that our heads could be upgraded to 110 (that is if somebody wanted to do that instead of upgrading to 113)? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] If it was an entirely new mold you would think that they would have made the change to 110 when they made the new casts.

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[Twolanerider]

On a positive note if they are still using the same heads wouldn't that mean that our heads could be upgraded to 110 (that is if somebody wanted to do that instead of upgrading to 113)? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] If it was an entirely new mold you would think that they would have made the change to 110 when they made the new casts.

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Trouble is Gary we don't know yet how much is interchangeable down low.  From the P&A and engine descriptions that are currently out we know or can safely surmise that cases are different for oil pattern flows, that cams and tensioners are different and that other parts of the reciprocating mass have changed too.

It actually sounds like could be a significant change to the Twin Cam.  The heads may still bolt down but it may very well be the case that everything below them is only generally visually similar but with little interchangeability.  If that's the case then the only upgrade options we'd have would be the ones we've always had.  A lot of the new stuff really looks to apply to 07 and newer only (at least that's the way it looks so far).

[Fired00d]

Oh well, we know that the Zippers 113ci and Jims 120ci will work for us. For those of us that have extra heads we also know they will look real nice powder coated red to match our rides when we do one of the above.

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[Twolanerider]

For those of us that have extra heads we also know they will look real nice powder coated red to match our rides when we do one of the above.

Yes, we do  [smiley=drink.gif] .

[naitram]

not sure what the pic above is supposed to be...... it is not an 07 motor though.

1) oil filter mount is not cast into the motor

2) oil line interface cover, this would not be present on an 07

[jeffj]

not sure what the pic above is supposed to be...... it is not an 07 motor though.

1) oil filter mount is not cast into the motor

2) oil line interface cover, this would not be present on an 07

True I was just showing the casting of 103" and Screaming Eagle, so people could reference what I was talking about

Sorry for the confusion

jeffj

[naitram]

thanks for clarifing. reading through this thread i thought maybe HD had built some examples of the 07 CVO's but snuck in an 06 motor

[DCFIREMANN]

The 110 inch heads will be the same casting as the 103 and the new motor will have a cat muffler and you will sign a form stating you won't modify the motor. The motors still need to meet EPA specs and 2007 is tougher than 2006. I will have to check on the throttle body. I would think it may stay the same to meet emissions. Not only are the new CVO's ugly the rules suck tooooo.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Fired00d]

I thought those mufflers seemed rather large. That really sucks having to sign a waiver saying you will not alter the motor. I just can't imagine any Harley owner leaving a motor totally stock. I'm sure there are some, but not many. Just adds another reason to keep what I have now.

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