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[Twolanerider]

  I'M NOT SURE I FULLY UNDERSTOOD???   COULD SOMEBODY PLEASE SPLAIN IT TO ME AGAIN!!!!!!!!    BOSTONBOY

It's like this.  If Firedood was thrown under a little bus there'd only be a few Dood-Pieces scattered about and some slightly squishy Dood-noises to go along with it.  But if Firedood was thrown under a big assed bus with rollers and spikes and gyrating widgets and flashing torpedos that shot BBQ ribs out its top and looked like a Mad-Max vision of school bus hell as it did the Dood-smush there would be many many many Dood-Pieces and a beautiful Dood-Spray of Dood-ish-innards-that-are-now-outards cascading before the sunset in prismatic and kaleidoscopic beauty.  Ergo big busses are better (and fortunately D00d can quickly reconstitute like the liquid guy in Terminator).

But just because big busses may smush Dood better does not mean that big busses themselves are, in fact, better.  Short busses are important and necessary too.  Everytime there's a new oil thread.

[Fired00d]

It's like this.  If Firedood was thrown under a little bus there'd only be a few Dood-Pieces scattered about and some slightly squishy Dood-noises to go along with it.  But if Firedood was thrown under a big assed bus with rollers and spikes and gyrating widgets and flashing torpedos that shot BBQ ribs out its top and looked like a Mad-Max vision of school bus hell as it did the Dood-smush there would be many many many Dood-Pieces and a beautiful Dood-Spray of Dood-ish-innards-that-are-now-outards cascading before the sunset in prismatic and kaleidoscopic beauty.  Ergo big busses are better (and fortunately D00d can quickly reconstitute like the liquid guy in Terminator).

But just because big busses may smush Dood better does not mean that big busses themselves are, in fact, better.  Short busses are important and necessary too.  Everytime there's a new oil thread.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Twolanerider]

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

uh...., whut?

[BostonboyDH]

It's like this.  If Firedood was thrown under a little bus there'd only be a few Dood-Pieces scattered about and some slightly squishy Dood-noises to go along with it.  But if Firedood was thrown under a big assed bus with rollers and spikes and gyrating widgets and flashing torpedos that shot BBQ ribs out its top and looked like a Mad-Max vision of school bus hell as it did the Dood-smush there would be many many many Dood-Pieces and a beautiful Dood-Spray of Dood-ish-innards-that-are-now-outards cascading before the sunset in prismatic and kaleidoscopic beauty.  Ergo big busses are better (and fortunately D00d can quickly reconstitute like the liquid guy in Terminator).

But just because big busses may smush Dood better does not mean that big busses themselves are, in fact, better.  Short busses are important and necessary too.  Everytime there's a new oil thread.

               THANKS FOR SPLAININ THAT!   O

[Lever]

just use syn oil 

[glens]

Back to the subject...

Here's another test.  Take some dino oil and throw it on a burning pile of branches.  Come back the next morning and what will you find?  Ashes.

Through some syn on a similar fire and what will you find the next morning?  A pile of grease.

[HUBBARD]

the best steam cylinder oil will dissolve in water and maintain its lubricity - no ill effects.

the best oils dissolve and hold ALL contaminates to prevent the contaminates from settling to the bottom of the sump when the engine is off and getting sucked in one big gulp into the pump - id think having the water of condensation pool in the oil pan to provide a big slug of water to the bearings on startup a really BAD thing

oil engineers know that some folks run engines a few blocks and shut them off again - eventually the oil will start holding a lot of water - if it separates from the oil in the sump the engine will slurp up the pure water and boom the engine is junk

your magician just proved that syn oils are better - but made you think otherwise - give him a rotten banana

to

I'd bet you gotta' STOP GLOBAL WARMING sticker on your car!   There's another "proven" theory that denies debate.  I expressed my opinion concerning synthetic oil, based on my experience.  I slammed no one.  I take 0ffense to your inappropriate remarks about Don Tilley.  Obviously, you have little, or no knowledge of this man's accomplishments, or of his standing in the Harley-Davidson community.  My personal experience with synthetic oil in my Motorsickle is this;  It ran through my Motor like chit through a goose.  And, when I turned it loose, I mean long and hard, my right inner thigh felt like somebody was holding a torch under it.  These are facts, and they are irrefutable.  Syn was junk then, and it's junk now, to me.  Now, allow me to retort;  There endeth the lesson.  Later--HUBBARD  

[Midnight Rider]

It's like this.  If Firedood was thrown under a little bus there'd only be a few Dood-Pieces scattered about and some slightly squishy Dood-noises to go along with it.  But if Firedood was thrown under a big assed bus with rollers and spikes and gyrating widgets and flashing torpedos that shot BBQ ribs out its top and looked like a Mad-Max vision of school bus hell as it did the Dood-smush there would be many many many Dood-Pieces and a beautiful Dood-Spray of Dood-ish-innards-that-are-now-outards cascading before the sunset in prismatic and kaleidoscopic beauty.  Ergo big busses are better (and fortunately D00d can quickly reconstitute like the liquid guy in Terminator).

But just because big busses may smush Dood better does not mean that big busses themselves are, in fact, better.  Short busses are important and necessary too.  Everytime there's a new oil thread.

Do we have to wear helmets on the short bus?  Uh oh, that's a different thread...

[LC110]

Can't we all just use a Partial Synthetic Blend and get along? 

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

So far, this oil thread has been rather civil.
Usually, these result in injury's.
Scott

[Razorback]

Back to the subject...

Here's another test.  Take some dino oil and throw it on a burning pile of branches.  Come back the next morning and what will you find?  Ashes.

Through some syn on a similar fire and what will you find the next morning?  A pile of grease.

And the department of Natural Resources there to give you a ticket and a bill for cleaning up a potential ground water contaminant. Just use an old tire on your brush pile, but then we could argue if a bias ply or radial would work better.

[Aussie]

2012 CVO, just got first service done and tech used H-D 360 rather than Syn3, not sure why but was told top end would be quieter as Syn3 is a lot thinner.

First ride after service I noticed the clatter top end noise was a little louder until engine was at full operating temp, dip stick said 240 degrees F, ambient temp was 68 degrees F.
Sounded sweet at 240F and idle with no top end noise at all, they also changed out the primary and transmission with Formula plus.

Any thoughts and has anyone used H-D 360 and formula plus in there 110ci?

[Midnight Rider]

2012 CVO, just got first service done and tech used H-D 360 rather than Syn3, not sure why but was told top end would be quieter as Syn3 is a lot thinner.

First ride after service I noticed the clatter top end noise was a little louder until engine was at full operating temp, dip stick said 240 degrees F, ambient temp was 68 degrees F.
Sounded sweet at 240F and idle with no top end noise at all, they also changed out the primary and transmission with Formula plus.

Any thoughts and has anyone used H-D 360 and formula plus in there 110ci?

Nothing wrong with what you're using, other than I personally would run synthetic in a new HD V-Twin crankcase.  Mainly for one, valid reason....it is MUCH less likely to start breaking down chemically from higher temperatures than is Dino oil.  That is an undisputable fact.  A stock 110, with stock exhaust, runs really hot.  Even without the stock exhaust and a tune, they still run really hot.  It's just the nature of the beast.  Synthetic oil, if the same viscosity as the Dino oil, is not "thinner".  20W50 oil is 20W50 oil, no matter which variety, else it would not be rated as such.  There are several differences between Dino and Synthetic oils, but viscosity between the two is not one of them.  It's your bike though, so if you're happy that's all that matters.  The LCD dipstick is not the most accurate temperature measuring device in the world, but it does provide a reference point.  240 degrees at 68 degrees ambient is pretty warm, all other things being accounted for.  Dino oil starts breaking down at around 260 degrees, from the reading I've done on the subject.

[miker]

I like oil, I use oil in lots of things.

[Willie D]

I like oil, I use oil in lots of things.

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