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[Tomtune1]

I have a 2009 SE Road Glide, with iPod module, zoom 660 nav, and NIM kit. I have also installed a J&M 500W amp and rear bag speakers. I have triple checked everything and for some reason, the NIM will not work. I checked the HD zoom 660 and it has 4.5 version software so I should be good there. Any ideas would certainly be appreciated.

A dealer told me the amp may be effecting the NIM operation, this seems a bit far fetched as the amp is on the output side of the HK radio.. I'm sure it's something I overlooked during the install.

[bissjim]

Try this link, hope you find the problem.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=59215.0

Jim

[SteveFLHTK]

Is it a Zumo or Roadtech 660?  The NIM will NOT work with a Zumo.

[Harleypingman]

How did you install the wires for the NIM harness into the 35 wire connector on the HK radio?  I ask because it's pretty common for civilians NOT to install them correctly resulting in the wires not making contact with the pin-outs of the HK.

Carl

[Midnight Rider]

If you have not recently purchased the NIM, you may have the old version, which was prone to have issues.  The new version's part number ends with an "A".  Mine had to be replaced on my '11 SERGU.

Could be the other things referenced above...if you've got a Zumo and not a Road Tech, the NIM is a boat anchor.

[Tomtune1]

Jumped the Road Tech 660 to the aux of the radio and it voiced the turn directions, does this mean the Nim is bad, I tried a second one, this too did not work. The radio does not cut out when the gps is giving directions.

Wow, I sure am a newbie.. Did not see the responses, thanks all for the help. Yes, the 660 is the HD unit, and I believe is have the wiring down however many of the threads I have read speak of swapping the wires to the 35 pin connector if you have an iPod module, which I do. I followed the instructions to a T... Are the instructions wrong?

[Tomtune1]

How did you install the wires for the NIM harness into the 35 wire connector on the HK radio?  I ask because it's pretty common for civilians NOT to install them correctly resulting in the wires not making contact with the pin-outs of the HK.

Carl

Carl, not following here. I double checked the pins to be sure they were installed exactly as the others, I can see how you could put them in so they would be short.. This is a good thought i will check again.

[Iron Cross Audio]

Check your headphone / speaker switch. Make sure you dont have it set for the NIM audio to go to the headset.

[Tomtune1]

Switch is in the speaker mode, checked. Maybe I am missing something else. I wired the 35 pin connector using the wiring diagram that came with both the iPod/navigation connector.
Pin 4 - red/black stripe
Pin 8 - tan/red stripe
Pin 19 - violet /grey stripe
Pin 27 - black/blue stripe
Pin 31 - tan/blue stripe

The diagram shows a yellow/orange wire to pin 13 and a yellow/ violet wire to pin 14, are these necessary? Do you know what they are for?

[TIF2]

The diagram shows a yellow/orange wire to pin 13 and a yellow/ violet wire to pin 14, are these necessary? Do you know what they are for?

These are the CAN (+) and CAN (-) signals. They are used for accessory module discovery (XM, CB, iPod, etc).

These signals are already present on the 35-pin connector of the 2009 SE Ultra - they are carried through as part of the 6B/6A chain with the NIM/iPod harness. The 5 additional wires that you pinned to J28 (35-pos connector) are unique to the functions of the NIM and the iPod. The instructions show to break the existing 6b/6A chain and to insert the NIM/iPod harness "into" this chain - thus providing the CAN signals (and others) to the rest of the accessory modules when/if needed.

Gotta ask the easy stuff first .... is the Audio setup on the 660 set to a volume that is reasonable? If the audio settings on the RT 660 are set low (or muted) you won't hear any voice prompts. An easy check is to set a source (XM, CD, etc) then cause an action that would require voice override. If the source is muted but no audio is heard - check the RT 660 settings and/or the speaker switch on the fairing cap. If the source is never muted then it is most likely an NIM or wiring issue.

Hope this helps...

[Tomtune1]

I have it set to max, the issue is it won't intrupet at all. Audio coming out of the speakers is good, Road Tech 660 volume on high, speaker switch set to speakers, checked all pins, they are good right at the bottom as they should be. Tried another NIM from the dealer, no luck.

I feel like there is something I have missed but I just can't find it.

I did speak to the Garmin advanced support and the were willing to swap the unit, not sure I want to do that as I. Tested it going to the aux in and it worked fine. The issue I feel is the NIM or the radio. Toughts?

[Midnight Rider]

Don't discount that the 660 is bad.  It sends a signal to the NIM to interupt the radio.  Garmin had some "issues" with their units.  One thing to try before sending the unit back to Garmin for exchange...make sure the firmware in the 660 is updated to the latest version.

My system started flaking out on me last year...had the dealer replace the NIM with the newest "A" version part number (old part number was known to have issues), and while things improved, it finally got where it would only give an audio prompt on initial start of a route, then no further directions.  Sent the unit back to Garmin for exchange and the new one is working fine to date.  The dealer can send it back, but it will take longer...do it yourself.  About a week turnaround, depending on your location and shipping method.

[Tomtune1]

Awesome, thanks. I will try that route.

[Tomtune1]

Ok, went threw and checked all the wires, tried hooking ip an iPod and the radio is not seeing it. No nim/no ipod, Any ideas.

[bissjim]

Check to see if you have the latest software for the radio and IPod installed on the radio. Just one more thing I can think of to try, it might solve your problem and might not but it is worth checking anyway.

Also if you do not see NIM/Phone on the radio face when a turn prompt is being sent or you do not see IPod when cycling through the modes then check to see if the CAN + and CAN - wires are installed correctly. Other then a CAN wiring problem your radio might be bad.

It is hard to troubleshoot a wiring problem.

Link for radio software:

 http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Content/Pages/Genuine_Motor_Accessories/advanced-audio-system.html