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2012 orange and black ultra just came in Friday that I have a deposit on. I stopped by today, and checked it over (quick glance). The paint looks good except for a lot of orange peel on the tourpak.
I have never noticed that much orange peel before on the tourpak's. Then again I have never had a deposit on a cvo before either. How does the paint look on your 2012 tourpak?
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

 
There is no difference between the tour-pak and the rest of the bike on mine.  Everything looks good with very little, to no, orange peel.

If there is an obvious difference, bring it up with the dealer to see how they suggest handling it.

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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 09:01:46 AM »

I just went out and looked at mine, no orange peel at all any where on the scoot, tour pack is fine...

If your concerned about the scoot you have a deposit on, have them note it on delivery and order a new tour pack....

I've had several painted parts replaced on previous SE Ultras, 2006 all painted parts, 2007 new gas tank, 2008 new front fairing....
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 09:09:34 AM »


No OP at all on mine,

If you need to take delivery, make note with the dealer at handover to make a warranty claim,,, unless you want that something just a little unique !  :orange:
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 02:24:55 PM »


Obvious orange peel is a defect, not a normal condition.  If it really bothers you, I would suggest getting a firm committment in writing from the dealer to replace the tour-pak before finalizing the deal.  Once you own it, H-D is liable to refuse to replace it and give you their infamous BS about it being normal and acceptable.  They have some really flaky "standards" for paint warranty and have been known to screw folks over.


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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 02:42:58 PM »

Surface of bike and tourpak looks the same.
Quality of both is okay.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 03:29:39 PM »

I went this morning to check bike over again. The orange peel is bad on the tourpak top and sides. The saddlebags has it too, but not quite as bad. They already sent pics to rep, and reply was, that is normal in production bikes.
When the bike is in the sun the tourpak/bags looks great. If you did not know it had orange peel would would not know it.
When the bike is in the shop/garage with fluorescent lights it is bad.
I really like this orange/black combo, but I may decide to move my deposit on a 13 cvo ultra.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 04:18:49 PM »

I went this morning to check bike over again. The orange peel is bad on the tourpak top and sides. The saddlebags has it too, but not quite as bad. They already sent pics to rep, and reply was, that is normal in production bikes.
When the bike is in the sun the tourpak/bags looks great. If you did not know it had orange peel would would not know it.
When the bike is in the shop/garage with fluorescent lights it is bad.
I really like this orange/black combo, but I may decide to move my deposit on a 13 cvo ultra.

Other than being BS (I used to run an automotive assembly plant paint operation, so I actually do know a little about such things), that comment finally admits that a CVO isn't anything special, it's just a "production" motorcycle.  What's next, a Harley rep admits that SYN3 isn't the only oil you can use and still maintain your warranty?

Unless you are the type to be able to ignore this defect going forward, taking a pass on the bike may be the best approach.  What does the dealer say about this; is he OK with losing the sale because of a stupid Harley rep who is only looking at a photo?  If I was the dealer I'd be on the horn to someone a lot higher in the Harley food chain than that rep and reminding them that the economy isn't exactly recovered yet and I don't appreciate losing a sale with potential $7k and up profits due to poor quality on their paint job. 

btw, does anyone know for sure if the paint is actually done in-house now, or do they still contract it out to an outside vendor like they did in the past?  If they still use the outside vendor, then it really makes no sense to lose a sale or pizz off a potential customer over this.  The outside vendor is responsible for the cost of replacing their defective stuff, not Harley.


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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 06:06:11 PM »

Other than being BS (I used to run an automotive assembly plant paint operation, so I actually do know a little about such things), that comment finally admits that a CVO isn't anything special, it's just a "production" motorcycle.  What's next, a Harley rep admits that SYN3 isn't the only oil you can use and still maintain your warranty?

Unless you are the type to be able to ignore this defect going forward, taking a pass on the bike may be the best approach.  What does the dealer say about this; is he OK with losing the sale because of a stupid Harley rep who is only looking at a photo?  If I was the dealer I'd be on the horn to someone a lot higher in the Harley food chain than that rep and reminding them that the economy isn't exactly recovered yet and I don't appreciate losing a sale with potential $7k and up profits due to poor quality on their paint job. 

btw, does anyone know for sure if the paint is actually done in-house now, or do they still contract it out to an outside vendor like they did in the past?  If they still use the outside vendor, then it really makes no sense to lose a sale or pizz off a potential customer over this.  The outside vendor is responsible for the cost of replacing their defective stuff, not Harley.


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The sad fact is ..... they probably have 5 other people standing in line to buy it that either won't notice, or won't GAS!  Either way, the bike will still sell.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 12:40:24 PM »

The sad fact is ..... they probably have 5 other people standing in line to buy it that either won't notice, or won't GAS!  Either way, the bike will still sell.


it is a great looking bike, and yes it will sell. I just can not get passed the excessive orange peel. I will move my deposit to a 2013, and hope for the best.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 12:51:52 PM »

 8) Guys, Can't the op be buffed out? Seams to me the better option than passing on bike.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2012, 05:38:16 PM »

Mine is yellow/black.  Paint is awesome on the whole bike.  Like glass on the metal and the plastic.  At the price your paying, I wouldn't accept it.
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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2012, 07:37:40 PM »

If your not satisfied and like the O/B there are other dealers out there that have them on the floor. Just came back from out west and all dealers I stopped at had an O/B sitting on the floor. One dealer in Peoria AZ had 2 of each color and priced at $37.249.00! Didn't see any orange peel on any of them! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 08:13:12 PM »

Do not scare me with this news about the orange black I just traded a blacky for this color scheme, i see no blemishes or OP on mine and hope it stays that way

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Re: My orange/black cvo ultra tourpak has excessive orange peel, normal?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2012, 10:29:21 AM »

I was in Las Vegas HD last Friday and they had a 2012 SEUC on the floor for sale...tour pack had alot of orange peel.....

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