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First Try with SEPST
« on: July 01, 2012, 08:05:43 AM »

Just got the SEPST, don't have alot of changes in the bike except for mufflers change to V&H 3" Twin Slash cut. Don't have access to Dyno tuning so I would try the smart tune feature of the software. But have a couple of Question.

1-I know that the Air temperature affect some of tuning feature, would it be wise to try to tune the bike in the extreme hot weather that we have in the middle east.
2-Which is the most appropriate map to use as a baseline ? I chose 023CAR001 as it was for CVO softail 2011 .
3-Can I retrieve the map that is already on the bike just in case I would need it afterward?
4-Any additional advice would be appreciated
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 09:38:57 AM »

1. do you have any alternative?
2. 241SCE001 could be more appropriate
3. SEPST can not retrieve the map that's presently on your bike
4. do some logging runs before you apply the new map so you can compare later.
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 09:48:38 AM »

To run best in Egypt or elsewhere in that part of the world tune it for where it's ridden.  The environmentals matter.  If the bike later lives in a dramatically different environment you might have to tweak it.  But you want it to run as well as it can where it lives.
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 04:32:41 PM »

Well , just came after logging 2 drives & I can say that there is a difference. More throttle response but need to work more on lower rpm in the 2 lower gears.

As for the temperature, should I use tuner when I ship the bike to Europe , there will be a huge difference in temperature & altitude
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 05:22:29 PM »

1. do you have any alternative?
2. 241SCE001 could be more appropriate
3. SEPST can not retrieve the map that's presently on your bike
4. do some logging runs before you apply the new map so you can compare later.


U r right , it may be appropriate. don't know why it didn't catch my eyes ? I will keep on trying
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 05:35:44 PM »

Temperature and altitude should be handled "automatically" by the ECM since they're constantly monitored as primary factors for the fuel calculations.  It certainly wouldn't hurt to make a quick couple of "smart tune" runs when you get there, but it shouldn't be entirely necessary either.

The instructions are (at least historically) unclear so I just want you to understand that you can/should build upon calibrations that have already been "smart tuned" on the bike.  That's to say that the "base" calibration for a subsequent "smart tune" session should be the result of the last "smart tune" session and not, as the instructions might lead one to believe, the "base" calibration from the software disc again each time.
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 06:48:29 PM »

to say that the "base" calibration for a subsequent "smart tune" session should be the result of the last "smart tune" session and not, as the instructions might lead one to believe, the "base" calibration from the software disc again each time.

Yeah, that's what I am doing. Building one upon the other. Do I play with AFR or "smart" tuning of the VE is enough?
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2012, 11:26:39 PM »

I don't know how much you can play with things while smart tuning.  The software changes some things out from under you when you click "enable smart tune" before uploading the calibration to the ECM.  You'll have to pull that calibration back off the VCI and see what you can see in it to make some better decisions.

The VEs will get dialed in fairly well for the fuel and timing settings used during the smart tune process.  If you change the timing the VEs will want to change slightly but for changed fueling targets the VEs should be correct enough, so you can try some different fueling settings (either in the main table or in the CLBs if your calibration uses them).

What's the weather like over there these days?
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 03:27:52 AM »

What's the weather like over there these days?

Simply Hell on Earth
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 03:31:01 AM »

I don't know how much you can play with things while smart tuning.  The software changes some things out from under you when you click "enable smart tune" before uploading the calibration to the ECM.  

Do you mean by that ticking the box that Say "Enable Smart Tune Reflash"? & another question, If the I flash the ECM after the smart tuning, Does that automatically mean that the tuner is free to start recording again ?
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 09:53:46 AM »

Simply Hell on Earth

Oh chit.  Did 400 miles a couple days ago on a day between 100 and 105.  But that's 120F.  Screw that.  Find me a cold beer and a bathtub.  Can you even get cold beer (without too much hassle)?
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 12:17:18 AM »

Can you even get cold beer (without too much hassle)?

U can always find your way ;)
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 02:22:34 AM »


2. 241SCE001 could be more appropriate


I tried the above map but it is not compatible with ECM
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 03:20:57 AM »

Yeah Hadye and you get all of the humidity being that close to the gulf. My vacation got pushed back to the end of August but we're encountering the same temps....but it's a dry heat. LOL Hot is hot I reckon. Hope you find your map and get your beast the way you want it!
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Re: First Try with SEPST
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 05:24:05 AM »

OK, I did 5 runs with the recommended way on the map that I think it is suitable. am uploading the VE tables of the of the front & the rear as well as the graph. I don't understand anything from it & need your help. The only thing that I can say is that the bike is running great & the the maximum speed has increased  :apple:

I am comparing the original map with the one produced after 5 runs
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