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Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« on: August 02, 2012, 07:15:39 PM »

Hi Everyone! The riding experience of all of you is invaluable.  Reading through this site over time I assume that there are more experienced riders than new riders (I consider myself a new rider).  I am sure there are more like me, plus everyone might pick up something new.  So if you had one piece of riding advice primarily aimed at new riders, what would it be?  Thank you very much in advance..I do want to ride safe, and by the way, 99% of the time I have my wife on the back.  Thanks again..I will be studying...PS:  I did take the Riders Edge Class..
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 07:25:05 PM »

well i ride like everyone is out to run me over. that keeps my head and eyes moving and looking checking the mirrors. i always approuch a car that is waiting to pull out as if it is going to pull out infront of me. Always looking for an escape route is second nature for me. but main thing is to be aware of whats going on around you. ride with-in you limits and enjoy the ride. 
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 07:30:38 PM »

Ride defensively at all times!!! One thing I do when approaching intersections is if the wheels on the vehicles (opposing/threatening) are moving/turning mine will be stopping/stopped... don't ever take for granted they see you always yield for them.

One other thing that I would recommend by something you said... "by the way, 99% of the time I have my wife on the back"... having a companion ride with you is great and a great way for you two to spend time together, however to be new to riding you need to practice, practice, practice, and practice by yourself, learning what your bike will do, how it will react, where all the buttons/knobs/dials are located. Once you feel confident with that and have practiced emergency stopping/turning/etc then start with adding a passenger on the back. IMO you have to feel confident solo riding before taking on riding with a passenger.

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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 08:12:19 PM »

Ride defensively at all times!!! One thing I do when approaching intersections is if the wheels on the vehicles (opposing/threatening) are moving/turning mine will be stopping/stopped... don't ever take for granted they see you always yield for them.

One other thing that I would recommend by something you said... "by the way, 99% of the time I have my wife on the back"... having a companion ride with you is great and a great way for you two to spend time together, however to be new to riding you need to practice, practice, practice, and practice by yourself, learning what your bike will do, how it will react, where all the buttons/knobs/dials are located. Once you feel confident with that and have practiced emergency stopping/turning/etc then start with adding a passenger on the back. IMO you have to feel confident solo riding before taking on riding with a passenger.

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Great advice. Very true. Learn your bike and respect it as well. But it doesn't matter if you have Ben ridding for 50 years a new bike is a new bike and takes getting use to.
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 08:29:09 PM »

Porschestan, this is a good thread and I think you have gotten a lot of  good advice with I am sure more to follow. I especially  like the one about looking to see if the wheels on the vehicle you are not sure about are starting to move. My tidbit is to always look over your shoulder before changing  lanes no matter what.  As far as I am concerned rear view mirrors are just for decoration.CAHDBIKER
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 08:37:31 PM »

I think the #1 thing to look out for is the on-coming left turner......then, assume everyone is an idiot...you'll be right most of the time anyway.
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 08:40:57 PM »

Head on a swivel. Always turn your head and check over your shoulder before changing lanes, pulling out, changing lane positions. Don't be afraid to ride slow. Not so slow you become a hazard to your self and others, but slow enough to give yourself reaction time should you need it. Look through curves and turns, let your head and eyes seek the exit, and use an outside inside path of travel as it will give you the best visibility for oncoming traffic and debris in the road. Trust your tires. That bike will lean over further than you think (up to a point). Steady or slightly increased throttle will allow you to lean over more, thus turn slightly tighter. Having said all that, learn the lean limits of your bike. Remember lowering it and adding floorboard extensions will reduce lean angle. Practice braking. I can't say this enough. Practice braking. That bike will stop faster and shorter than you think if you have good braking skills. If you have abs on the bike practice becomes more important as you must learn how the bike feels with abs  deployed. Continue to seek additional riding courses. As soon as you think you don't need it, you start needing it. Lastly, regular practice is a must, and getting together with friends to go on a ride to get a bite to eat is not the same as practice. Practice is an application of a technique for the sole purpose of improvement or maintenance. If you are too busy to practice, make time. It's that important. Your life depends on it. Would you put money on an athlete who skips practice? All he's doing is playing a game, on a bike your life is at risk, not a won loss talley. So if you are meeting up at 10am to go for a ride, show up at 930 and practice. Lastly, remember that your hands and feet operate the controls, but your head and eyes command where that bike goes. Look where you want to go.

These are just a few of the things that come to mind at 430am.

Mark
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 12:18:16 AM »

Head on a swivel. Always turn your head and check over your shoulder before changing lanes, pulling out, changing lane positions. Don't be afraid to ride slow. Not so slow you become a hazard to your self and others, but slow enough to give yourself reaction time should you need it. Look through curves and turns, let your head and eyes seek the exit, and use an outside inside path of travel as it will give you the best visibility for oncoming traffic and debris in the road. Trust your tires. That bike will lean over further than you think (up to a point). Steady or slightly increased throttle will allow you to lean over more, thus turn slightly tighter. Having said all that, learn the lean limits of your bike. Remember lowering it and adding floorboard extensions will reduce lean angle. Practice braking. I can't say this enough. Practice braking. That bike will stop faster and shorter than you think if you have good braking skills. If you have abs on the bike practice becomes more important as you must learn how the bike feels with abs  deployed. Continue to seek additional riding courses. As soon as you think you don't need it, you start needing it. Lastly, regular practice is a must, and getting together with friends to go on a ride to get a bite to eat is not the same as practice. Practice is an application of a technique for the sole purpose of improvement or maintenance. If you are too busy to practice, make time. It's that important. Your life depends on it. Would you put money on an athlete who skips practice? All he's doing is playing a game, on a bike your life is at risk, not a won loss talley. So if you are meeting up at 10am to go for a ride, show up at 930 and practice. Lastly, remember that your hands and feet operate the controls, but your head and eyes command where that bike goes. Look where you want to go.

These are just a few of the things that come to mind at 430am.

Mark

Thanks for your Excellent Advise, everybody..I will take it all to heart..Mark, my wife thinks your writing ability at 4:30 am is amazing...!!! Stan
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 12:30:28 AM »

Find a good rider and have him/her take you out...  even try sitting on his bike to see how he lines up and uses his breaks/throttle,,,

Don't ride along side any vehicle (they could turn into you as they may not know you are there).

When I pass (esp semi trucks), I like to pass as quick as I can.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 02:26:32 AM »

Find a good rider and have him/her take you out...  even try sitting on his bike to see how he lines up and uses his breaks/throttle,,,

Don't ride along side any vehicle (they could turn into you as they may not know you are there).

When I pass (esp semi trucks), I like to pass as quick as I can.

A good rider in one group can be the worst in another group. It is better to follow a training course at a respectable training organization. A good rider who doesn't train regularly will possibly develop wrong skills.

Another advise: Be sure people see you. Be "present" on the road. Meander in traffic all the time. People see movement.

Drive safe.
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 03:19:05 AM »

I would add riding with proper riding gear is essential is very important.  I always ride with boots, gloves, pants, jackets and a full face helmet all designed for riding.  With today's materials it's easy to pick the right gear for the weather conditions you ride in.  If you start out this way you will be better off, but starting this way develops the habit.  Later if you ride without you feel naked.   
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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 07:32:09 AM »

Take as many Advanced riding courses that you can find....I have been riding for 50 years, I have scrambled, tried speedway and was practicing for road racing, and I still take courses in advanced riding and recently completed an accident management course....the more you ride the more experienced you become...but do the theory along the way, and be sure you take the boss with you....(a happy wife is a happy life) ;D :)
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 09:23:34 AM »

On the lighter side be very careful when passing a semi with cattle. For some reason it starts to rain when you go by.......yik. understand what I am saying son..... :-X

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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 10:45:00 AM »

All of you guys have very good points  :2vrolijk_21:   

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Re: Advice-Accident Avoidance Tips
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 11:10:25 AM »

Great stuff.  One more.  DO NOT RUN OVER ANYTHING!  I don't care if you think it's a leaf from a tree.  It may turn out to be a piece of steel and cause a blowout.  Don't ask me how I know!

Further, "dodging" road junk is very good practice.  Just be sure you're, uh, alone and clear of everyone and everything.

If you MUST run over something that is, let's say the size of a 4 x 4 or larger, brake as hard as you can before you hit it.  BUT, just before you hit it let off the brakes and accellorate.  Your shocks will take an extremely large barrier if they are decompressed.  If they are totally compressed you could very easily go down.  Or UP, as the case might be for a moment!  :oops:
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