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[redeagle2002]

Just curious if anyone else has had a problem with the rear brakes on a new cvo roadglide. My dealer has been great about trying to help, replaced pads rotor, caliper, bleed and then electronically bleed the system but the rear brake still wont stop the bike. I am completely satisfied with their effort but still dont have a strong rear brake,,,the pedal is firm but wont stop the bike even at a slow roll.

[Dan_Lockwood]

Just curious if anyone else has had a problem with the rear brakes on a new cvo roadglide. My dealer has been great about trying to help, replaced pads rotor, caliper, bleed and then electronically bleed the system but the rear brake still wont stop the bike. I am completely satisfied with their effort but still dont have a strong rear brake,,,the pedal is firm but wont stop the bike even at a slow roll.

 

Redeagle, I might be hard pressed to say I was "completely satisified with their effort" if the bike still did not stop with the rear brake at ANY speed.

Is this a problem that just came up or has it been like this since delivery?

[redeagle2002]

it has there since new,,,I guess I am not happy that it isnt fixed by the guys at the dealership have been great to work with and are truly doing all they can. they have been working with the HD tech service guys and i am confident that they will figure it out, just curious if anyone else has encountered this.

[CVODON]

Seems pretty simple, the mastercylinder or the rear caliper are defective. Orfice in one or the other is not passing the required amount of brake fluid to allow pads to squeeze the rotor with enough force to stop the bike. And since, per your post, they have replaced the caliper, then the only thing left is the mastercylinder.
All the bleeding (and what is electronic bleeding? I know how to pressure bleed, vacuum bleed, gravity bleed and lastly my wife pumping the lever while I mechanically bleed but electronic bleeding is a new one on me) in the world will not increase the force once the air is initially removed. Maybe try another dealer?

[redeagle2002]

The master cylinder and caliper have been replaced,,, The elctronic bleeding is required in the ABS module,,, believe me these guys are excellent techs, they have done the basics , their feeling is that the ABS module may be bad, but it takes the blessing of HD tech to approve its warranty replacement. I own A Goodyear store , many new vehicles now require computer controlled bleeding of the system,, by no means is it new technology.

[grc]

Your definition of an excellent tech is obviously different than mine.  An excellent tech would determine where the fault lies with a series of tests to determine where the hydraulic pressure is being lost, and not just keep replacing one part after another in a WAG method.  Anyone can just keep changing parts until they stumble upon the cause of the problem, doesn't take any real talent.  Let me put it this way.  If the bike was out of warranty and you were the one paying for all those parts that didn't fix the problem, would you think you got great service or would you think you got hosed?  Just because you aren't paying for it this time doesn't make it right.

I think if it had been me I would have started by checking hydraulic pressure at the caliper and then work my way forward.  Problems like this can be caused by the caliper itself, the fluid line to the caliper, the ABS pump and valves, the fluid line from the pump to the rear brake switch, the brake switch, the fluid line to the master cylinder, and ultimately the master cylinder.  I'd hate to think these guys are going to change out every single part (and I doubt Harley is going to pay them to do so).  There are test kits on the market that allow them to tap into the hydraulic system at any fitting or bleeder valve and measure pressure. 


Jerry

[redeagle2002]

grc,,, you have to remember that HD has to approve of any major component replacement.As mentioned I own a automotive service center and recognize wag when I see it,,, these guys are doing all they can within HD parameters,,, with the ABS module being a $$$$ component, they have to do the necessary testing to confirm its replacement,  I have been around this business for a long time and there is no one I would rather have my bike with than these guys. There is no guessing going on but at the same time some solutions are a little more elusive than others. This is my 12th cvo and every one of them came from these guys. I was wondering if anyone else had encountered this , not trying to second guess these guys. in this day and age it is hard to find a dealer that you can put your faith in and believe me  after spending several hundred thousand dollars with these guys , I wouldnt even consider another dealer. this is not a simple quick fix, we have ample pedal pressure , somehow we are not getting correct pressure to the caliper...