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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 03:56:18 PM »

I was just told that Harley has changed the seal to a HD branded cometic. No validate though.
Baker also carries a double lip seal and recommends it when doing the DD6, along with the baker bearing.

I haven't found it yet, but either the case - primary O-ring is leaking or the shift seal is, along with the outer gasket.
My shifter is tight and may be leaking. Kathy's shifter wobbles and doesnt leak, go figure.

Kathy's wobbles so much that it hits the inner primary....no leak....figgurin some'n else is goin to happen bad :coolblue:
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 06:25:25 PM »

Kathy's wobbles so much that it hits the inner primary....no leak....figgurin some'n else is goin to happen bad :coolblue:


Is the shaft worn down or the case hole rounded out?

Wonder how much they can move and keep the arms properly engaged in the drum?  :nixweiss:
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 07:48:24 PM »

it wobbles around enough I'm surprised she could shift it. Kathy had no problem though whipping the bike through it's paces especially dragging the trailer.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2012, 07:54:56 PM »

Make sure the shift shaft is not worn around the area of the seal surface. Any question... Change it. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2012, 08:36:51 PM »


Is the shaft worn down or the case hole rounded out?

Wonder how much they can move and keep the arms properly engaged in the drum?  :nixweiss:

I have a strange feeling that I am going to have to do a little machining on the case this winter since all those parts were replaced last winter
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2012, 10:35:52 AM »

1 1/2" and 1 3/16 for the comp and clutch nuts.  Clutch nut is left hand thread.  Just standard impact sockets for those.  You'll also need a deep socket that comes with a pilot for the mainshaft nut.  It's a specialty piece, not just a normal deep socket.   Take a look here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180786952820

Also very handy is a locking bar to hold the comp and clutch assemblies in place while tightening.  Possible without it.  But often a pain in the ass.  Worth the few bucks it costs.  See here:

http://www.amazon.com/Harley-Davidson-Primary-Drive-Locking/dp/B005CW9R0K/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1348608363&sr=1-4&keywords=harley+locking+bar

Hey Twolane,

The mfr of the locking bar also makes a mainshaft tool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davidson-Mainshaft-Sprocket-1-7-8-Wrench-Tool-Big-Twin-TC88-1936-2006-/271058822819?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1c5d66a3

Seems different from the one you recommended which doesn't have the threaded bushing. Does this make a difference?  Not sure how this works just yet, but this is working out to be my winter project so I want to make sure I go with the better tool.

PS - Anyone visiting Chicago in the next few months and is willing to drink some of my beer to watch over my shoulder and make sure I don't screw anything up?    ::)

Thanks!
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 11:31:38 AM »

Hey Twolane,

The mfr of the locking bar also makes a mainshaft tool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Davidson-Mainshaft-Sprocket-1-7-8-Wrench-Tool-Big-Twin-TC88-1936-2006-/271058822819?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1c5d66a3



That "Heartland" company has become a good source for very competitively priced specialty tools.  I also thought the one I'd linked previously had the bushing. 

The bushing is a good idea.  Not absolutely mandatory.  But a very good idea.  The depth is so long and the nut is very narrow.  It's easy not to stay square and round out corners of the nut.  The bushing is there to avoid that.

On the later bikes that nut sized changed too.   So as you are shopping make sure it's specified for the right years.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 11:44:25 AM »


That "Heartland" company has become a good source for very competitively priced specialty tools.  I also thought the one I'd linked previously had the bushing. 

The bushing is a good idea.  Not absolutely mandatory.  But a very good idea.  The depth is so long and the nut is very narrow.  It's easy not to stay square and round out corners of the nut.  The bushing is there to avoid that.

On the later bikes that nut sized changed too.   So as you are shopping make sure it's specified for the right years.

Yeah, in the details section of that other tool, it states:

Note:  A inner collar or threaded bushing is not required with our unique tool. The self guiding design will not allow the tool to slip off of the nut.

it does however talk about high quality tool steel, whereas there is no material mention on the ad.  After buying a wheel bearing tool on ebay that disintegrated the first time I use it, I'm a little weary of the crappy Chinese knock-offs that don't last.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 11:48:48 AM »

Yeah, in the details section of that other tool, it states:

Note:  A inner collar or threaded bushing is not required with our unique tool. The self guiding design will not allow the tool to slip off of the nut.

it does however talk about high quality tool steel, whereas there is no material mention on the ad.  After buying a wheel bearing tool on ebay that disintegrated the first time I use it, I'm a little weary of the crappy Chinese knock-offs that don't last.

Have seen a few of the "Heartland" tools and they weren't crap.  Have no idea how they'd hold up in an everyday production shop.  But for guys like us that might use them three or four times a year they were ok.  I bought a few pieces of their stuff for my own use from their selection of Mercruiser tools this past summer.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2012, 12:01:48 PM »

Have seen a few of the "Heartland" tools and they weren't crap.  Have no idea how they'd hold up in an everyday production shop.  But for guys like us that might use them three or four times a year they were ok.  I bought a few pieces of their stuff for my own use from their selection of Mercruiser tools this past summer.

Awesome - That's a good enough reco for me!  This actually works better because I can buy both parts together from the same guy and perhaps save a few bucks in shipping.

Thanks!
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