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Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« on: September 25, 2012, 10:34:03 AM »

I've been trying search out a small leak that I thought was the primary ever since the dealer installed my DD6 in my 2006 SEUC.

I finally got it up on the lift, and with a mirror it now appears that it's coming out of the trans where the shifter rod linkage comes out.

Does anyone know how hard this is to replace the washer or O-ring, or whatever that must seal this? I'm hoping I can take care of this without having to open up the trans?

Anyone have any tips on getting this done DIY?

Thanks!
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 10:49:02 AM »

It's called a shift shaft seal.  Unless the Harley branded seal has improved the seal from Cometic is a much better part.  It's cheap either way.  Outer and inner primary both have to come off to change it though.  So it's a fair bit of labor.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 11:00:27 AM »

Lovely...     :'(
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 11:08:26 AM »

This should give a better idea.  You can see the shift shaft sticking out with the washer and snap ring on it.  The seal is right behind the big washer. 

No way to the shift lever off, nor the snap ring, with the inner primary in place.  Have to strip everything off the left side.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 01:03:51 PM »

Thanks Twolane.

This is now the second third time the primary or trans has started leaking since the local dealer installed the DD6 last summer.  For 5 years the thing was bone dry and every time I bring it back, it's another thing that has nothing to do with the install.  F%&king pissing me off.  At $300 to $400 a shot, this is getting out of hand.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 01:52:02 PM »

Do as Don stated and replace with a double lip seal from Cometic (HD is a single lip)..  They come 5 in a pack from Cometic..
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 02:07:16 PM »

Thanks Twolane.

This is now the second third time the primary or trans has started leaking since the local dealer installed the DD6 last summer.  For 5 years the thing was bone dry and every time I bring it back, it's another thing that has nothing to do with the install.  F%&king pissing me off.  At $300 to $400 a shot, this is getting out of hand.


That gets expensive fast.  Would have paid for a good torque wrench, mainshaft nut socket and a couple of other big sockets the first time through.  After that you could have the outer and inner off yourself for clutch or any other maintenance that might come up.

Good luck getting it sorted.  Will keep the finger crossed this is your last time in there :2vrolijk_21: .
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 03:21:32 PM »

Got the good torque wrench and a lift.  Do you know what size sockets you need?
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 05:28:22 PM »

Got the good torque wrench and a lift.  Do you know what size sockets you need?

1 1/2" and 1 3/16 for the comp and clutch nuts.  Clutch nut is left hand thread.  Just standard impact sockets for those.  You'll also need a deep socket that comes with a pilot for the mainshaft nut.  It's a specialty piece, not just a normal deep socket.   Take a look here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180786952820

Also very handy is a locking bar to hold the comp and clutch assemblies in place while tightening.  Possible without it.  But often a pain in the ass.  Worth the few bucks it costs.  See here:

http://www.amazon.com/Harley-Davidson-Primary-Drive-Locking/dp/B005CW9R0K/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1348608363&sr=1-4&keywords=harley+locking+bar
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 05:29:47 PM »

Oh, one other thing, does your torque wrench measure when pulling counterclockwise?  Not all do.  You'll need to tighten the left handed thread nuts.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 05:55:36 PM »

Thanks. Yes, I have a set of Craftsman Digit Torques 3/8" and 1/2" but I'm not sure what torque they go up to.  Do you know what is the ft/lbs spec for the comp nut?
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 09:33:49 PM »

Thanks. Yes, I have a set of Craftsman Digit Torques 3/8" and 1/2" but I'm not sure what torque they go up to.  Do you know what is the ft/lbs spec for the comp nut?

Pull it to 90 ft pds.  Then use a marker on the comp nut and parts behind it.  After 90 ft pds pull it another 45 degrees.

That ends up being in the neighborhood of a 150 ft pds pull.  So eat your Wheaties.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 10:07:09 AM »

I think the 1/2 will go to 150 ft/lbs.  But that 90 ft/lbs +45 degrees is a good tip,

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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2012, 10:31:48 AM »

I think the 1/2 will go to 150 ft/lbs.  But that 90 ft/lbs +45 degrees is a good tip,

Thanks!

Harley changed that tightening spec six years ago or so.  Had trouble with comp nuts coming loose and went from a straight pull to that pull and angle.  It worked too.  Loose comp nuts mostly went away after that.
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Re: Tranny Leak through Gear Shifter Seal?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 10:46:29 AM »

I was just told that Harley has changed the seal to a HD branded cometic. No validate though.
Baker also carries a double lip seal and recommends it when doing the DD6, along with the baker bearing.

I haven't found it yet, but either the case - primary O-ring is leaking or the shift seal is, along with the outer gasket.
My shifter is tight and may be leaking. Kathy's shifter wobbles and doesnt leak, go figure.
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