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Is an Andrews 54H or Woods TW7H, a better choice for a 110 as a bolt in?
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 02:59:56 PM »

Depends
What are you trying to accomplish? Is this a "build" or a cam change.
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 06:13:28 PM »

Just a cam change, I usually ride two up, looking for a response that can be felt in the seat of my pants without breaking the bank.
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 07:03:06 PM »

Go short then. Wood TW222 or Tman 555TQ. These cams in a 110 will perform better than their timing numbers will have you believe. There are a slug of others but most will sacrifice off idle to 2,500 torque.
The stock cam with a will equal these stop light to stop light but these will pull harder when you drop a gear and do that without added compression plus the motor will run cooler. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 09:17:59 PM »

Go short then. Wood TW222 or Tman 555TQ. These cams in a 110 will perform better than their timing numbers will have you believe. There are a slug of others but most will sacrifice off idle to 2,500 torque.
The stock cam with a will equal these stop light to stop light but these will pull harder when you drop a gear and do that without added compression plus the motor will run cooler. :2vrolijk_21:

I think the original question was,

Is an Andrews 54H or Woods TW7H, a better choice for a 110 as a bolt in?
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Supershooter when I had the TW7H cams in the 09 SEUC I rolled on with a 10 SEUC that had the 54's.
Pulled the guy from roll on to over a hundred and he never caught up till I let off. That doesn't answer your question but it does relate my experience concerning both.
I now have the TW7H cams in the 2011.5 SEUC and the 12 SERGC. Both bikes have the Fullsac pipe, the 2.0 baffles, and use the TTS Mastertune for tuning. Both bikes will get over 50 mpg taking it easy and mid forties when I'm rolling hard.
The question you asked above I also asked and was finally told there's not much difference in the cams. I suspect the difference in mine is the tune.
Hope that helps.

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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 09:26:16 AM »

If I stick to the topic and turn off my brain with all the other possibilities I would definitely use the TW7H
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 10:14:01 AM »

Well it looks like the next questions needs to answered now, 222 vs 7H? I have been researching the 222 and I like the idea of the cam coming on early, but a testimonial from SBB makes me give serious consideration to the 7H. This cam will be paired with SE Tuner, Rienhart true duals and 3.5 in mufflers. 75% two up 25% solo. We live a state with 55 mph speed limits and take few 1000-3500 mile trips where we ride a fair amount of super slab to get to where we're going. In a perfect world I'd put the 54 H in ride for a while, replace it with the 7H ride a while, then put in the 222, then decide which one is right.  :)
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2012, 10:25:00 AM »

Well it looks like the next questions needs to answered now, 222 vs 7H? I have been researching the 222 and I like the idea of the cam coming on early, but a testimonial from SBB makes me give serious consideration to the 7H. This cam will be paired with SE Tuner, Rienhart true duals and 3.5 in mufflers. 75% two up 25% solo. We live a state with 55 mph speed limits and take few 1000-3500 mile trips where we ride a fair amount of super slab to get to where we're going. In a perfect world I'd put the 54 H in ride for a while, replace it with the 7H ride a while, then put in the 222, then decide which one is right.  :)
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If only it was a perfect world!
But if it was we wouldn't have to mess with the motors on our bikes.
Good luck on what you decide!

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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2012, 10:30:30 AM »

SBB, Your impressive fuel economy makes me lean 7h, but low end of the 222, is pulling the other way. Decisions, Decisions
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 10:40:03 PM »

222 is in and tuned 94 HP and 110 TQ, I hope it rides well, pretty disappointed in the dyno results. I'll post dyno later,
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 09:12:16 AM »

222 is in and tuned 94 HP and 110 TQ, I hope it rides well, pretty disappointed in the dyno results. I'll post dyno later,
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I tried to help, good luck with what you decide.

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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 11:07:34 AM »

222 is in and tuned 94 HP and 110 TQ, I hope it rides well, pretty disappointed in the dyno results. I'll post dyno later,
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Chip's scooter runs very good for certain.   :2vrolijk_21:  That doesn't mean yours will not impress you regardless of the numbers.  

When the weather allows you to ride her, forget about the dyno # and toss a leg over her.  Let that determine if made a good cam mod.  Can't ride a dyno sheet and chasing #'s is expensive....

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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 12:37:44 PM »

A couple degrees earlier closing, more lift and a more aggressive ramp will make the 7's outperform the 54's in that application, just don't expect to have a stock quiet valve train with the 7's. They are not necessarily the noisiest cam out there but you will notice them.  I like Don's idea
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 03:33:33 PM »

Yer ride it first. I put 54s in my sesg made 105tq 100hp I was disappointed!! until I rode with my mates that had better dyno numbers then me!! Guess what between stop lights I'm right with them and when were on the open road they can't stick with me when powering out of a corner ( they ride dynas )
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Re: Which cam is a better choice in the the 110, the Andrews 54H or TW7H?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2013, 03:54:33 PM »

I'm more disappointed in the TQ curve its not as long or flat as I had hoped and it takes more RPM's than I thought it should to reach 90% of max TQ. I'll try and get the sheet uploaded and posted today or tomorrow.

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