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[ultrafxr]

I have to believe this engine made a lot of grinding/scraping sounds for a long while before it's death.

Al

That is what is so strange. Neither me nor my friend riding with me heard anything like that and we checked a couple times.

[eleft36]

In a similar, but not a disaster, reason to stop couple of times and check on a metallic tinging that turned out to be a male half of a snap connector on the right pants leg slapping the air cleaner football. 

What was going on for you to check a couple of times?

Al

[CircleRacer]

Jerry,
Sorry to see your loss my hart goes out to you. This summer I lost a lifter put in new cam bearings inner and outer chains wear shoes crank has .0045" of run out I hate that. I installed Woods directional lifters I don't like the way they peck when you first start the engine but they are quite when the engine warms up. almost ready to turn over 42,000 miles. I know you don't abuse your bike because I have rode with you we ride the same way as you. If my engine goes down I will probably pull it out and make a drive to visit Hillside in New York never talked to the people there by I read their post they sound like good people.
Good Luck
Rick

[CVOJOE]

ostensibly modern manufacturer firmly ensconced in the standards of the 21st century American automotive industry

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Whoa Don, you must be on some pain meds there bro!! 

[sadunbar]

Keep thinking about your ruined engine Jerry.  So glad that if it failed it did so within the ESP program limits.  But it's the details that bother.

You ride a lot.  But it's the kind of riding that's as easy on the engine as any riding is going to be.  A lot of cruising, less town, little or no hot rodding.  And yet despite being an almost ideal rider (for longevity's sake) and being a rider who is attentive to maintenance and riding an engine that was already a factory supplied replacement (with whatever connotations that might suggest) the engine last 60,000 miles.  Just 60,000.

This from an ostensibly modern manufacturer firmly ensconced in the standards of the 21st century American automotive industry.  Were the failure actually a shock for its uncommon nature we might be a bit relieved.  That its actually but a more dramatic case of the recognized and all too common failures just makes you hang your head.

Same thoughts, Don...  I think Jerry rides much as I do...  Easy on everything.   My riding is mostly trips...the vast majority of my riding is two up with a Bushtec...easy on the gas trying to preserve mileage.  Overkill maintenance as far as inspections and oil changes.  And yet I have a box full of replaced lifters. 

You don't know how much I wish I still had my 04 SEEG. 

[kraut]

That is what is so strange. Neither me nor my friend riding with me heard anything like that and we checked a couple times.

it's not strange it's typical: when the cam bearing finally comes apart the hailstorm of needles does the damage within seconds. As you hear the pinging/popping metallic noise this hailstorm gives until the engine finally dies and will never move again.

Happened to me just the way you described it in 2009 

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

"Hailstorm" is a good description for that event.
Scott

[16HD117]

Same exact thing happened to my 07 (cam bearing).  Heard a very slight noise from the engine.  Stopped and heard nothing while reeving the engine up.  As I got back on the road I noticed a slight loss of power, then a major loss of power, then no power.

Bike was 5k out of warranty and of course Harley would give me no assistant!  So what did I do?  Traded the 07 on a 2011 $36k time bomb!

[ultrafxr]

it's not strange it's typical: when the cam bearing finally comes apart the hailstorm of needles does the damage within seconds. As you hear the pinging/popping metallic noise this hailstorm gives until the engine finally dies and will never move again.

Happened to me just the way you described it in 2009 

At least I know what to listen for the next time.   
Just a little 'gallows humor' there, lol.   

[hogasm]

On the way to Maggie Valley this year, Kathy and I were in Blowing Rock for the night. We left the campground 2 up on Kathy's 05 SEEG. After dinner I herd a slight ticking noise while stopped at a stop sign. Kathy asked me what I was doing....my reply was that I thought I heard a slight ticking noise. At the 2nd stop sign the noise increased. I told her that that was it for this motor. We coasted into the campground, rode 2 up on my bike to MV and borrowed a truck and triler from Lt Bob.

[hogasm]

Front cylinder exhaust lifter

from when I first heard  tiny noise till I cut the engine off......less than 3 minutes

[Aussie]

hogasm,
That was a close call.

How many miles and what oil are you using on the SEEG?

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

All the pictures in this thread, look all too familiar............
Scott

[ultrafxr]

Just got word from the service manager that ESP has approved to pay to send the motor for re-man.  Well actually I'll be getting a new motor from re-man.  Not much if anything salvageable from this one.

Darn shame we have to pay for and rely on them but all I can say is:  Thank goodness for ESP.   

[sadunbar]

Just got word from the service manager that ESP has approved to pay to send the motor for re-man.  

What exactly "re-man"?  I've never read about them or researched them.  They're not new, they're rebuilt, right?  By S&S I think I've heard.  I wonder what is new in a re-man motor.  I would assume valves, seals, bearings...  I wonder what acceptable crank runout is in a re-man motor.  I don't have any opinion pro or con - I'm just curious...