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[manata]

Lol. That's why I go to the guys in London at Rockys even though I'm downtown Toronto. Service is great and the staff makes u feel like ur family.

[Jimbike]

I just bought a new cvo road glide, dealer suggested I put a new woods cam in along with fullsac x pipe. Not sure if I should mess with cam on a brand new bike, any thoughts would be appreciated.

[gtaboyz]

That's what's great about this site, you get more of the correct information that you can take back to the dealer and tell them how to fix it the right way, I love it!

As far as what cams and pipes to put on your bike, you can ask 10 different people and get 10 different answers. The engine and performane mods that I have on my 11 SESG were the result of numerous threads and suggestions that I found on this site. Even though there was a lot of trial and error prior to where it is at right now, this was the first of all my bikes that I ever went to this extent, both with parts, lots of labor and lots of $$$$. Not that I'm not happy with what it is putting out for power, it's awesone! However, the best bang for your buck is a tuner, pipes and dyno tune. You will get major noticeable results from these three simple things, it still isn't cheap but to get more power above doing those mods you should plan on spending some serious money. On my 10 SESG I used D&D Fat Cat 2:1 with left side ghost (needed due to looks because of the extended saddlebags), a SE Pro Race Tuner and having it dyno tuned. If I knew how much I was going to spend on my 11, I would have just stuck with the pipes and tuner for the money IMHO!

BTW, The cams I am running are the 259-E's

[grc]

I just bought a new cvo road glide, dealer suggested I put a new woods cam in along with fullsac x pipe. Not sure if I should mess with cam on a brand new bike, any thoughts would be appreciated.

If it were me, I'd avoid internal mods until I felt comfortable the engine was going to stay in one piece.  Internal mods can easily leave you without a factory warranty if Harley can find a way to blame your mods for any failure.  It's a crap shoot these days; assess your tolerance for risk and proceed from there.

You may find that a simple exhaust change and tune will provide all the performance you need anyway.  If not you can always do the internal stuff later.

JMHO - Jerry

[Sharkbiker]

All CVO's have the 255 cams.  My 2005 CVO Fatboy did and so does my CVO '13 RGC. If you want to keep the low to mid range torque then you want the 255's.  The 359's are for higher rpm torque but you will loose low end torque.  The best thing you can do is have the heads flowed and ported with larger exhaust valves with the pistons shaped to meet the new valve facing. This will greatly increase torque from 2,000-4,500 rpm which is where I believe even the most aggressive street rider wants to be.  If you are racing the scooter then that is a different story. Mine is getting the above and will be completed mid March with the goal of 127 ft./lbs. of torque through the 2k-4.5k range. 

[Jswerve]

Dealing with dealership no service is kinda like going to the doctor when I was in the military. They were great - as long as I made my own diagnosis and told them what to prescribe, lol.

They always busted out the ol flow chart and did a little troubleshooting from the Field manual LMAO. At least that's when I was in!

[Toddster]

Can anyone tell me the performance or characteristics that are different tween the 255 and 259 cams?

[hd-dude]

All CVO's have the 255 cams.  My 2005 CVO Fatboy did and so does my CVO '13 RGC. If you want to keep the low to mid range torque then you want the 255's.  The 359's are for higher rpm torque but you will loose low end torque.  The best thing you can do is have the heads flowed and ported with larger exhaust valves with the pistons shaped to meet the new valve facing. This will greatly increase torque from 2,000-4,500 rpm which is where I believe even the most aggressive street rider wants to be.  If you are racing the scooter then that is a different story. Mine is getting the above and will be completed mid March with the goal of 127 ft./lbs. of torque through the 2k-4.5k range. 

The 03-06 103" CVO's all had the se-253 cams stock. The 255 cams started in 07 with the 110" engine.

[grc]

Can anyone tell me the performance or characteristics that are different tween the 255 and 259 cams?

The 255 cams have a profile that improves very low speed torque but kills upper midrange and top end.  The 259e along with a boost in compression starts out slightly lower in torque but quickly surpasses the 255 and extends the torque curve much further up the rpm scale.  If you look at the attached chart you can see the big difference in mid range and higher rpm.  It comes down to how you normally ride as to how much difference you might feel.  If you usually shift at 2500 rpm the 259e is likely to feel slightly less powerful, but from 3000 rpm up I would expect you to feel an obvious difference.

Jerry