I have to chime in here on the boots I've had for over 18 years, Rocky. They aren't black and don't look like motorcycle boots but they have been with me on MANY miles, cross country, through sun, rain, snow and kept my feet warm and dry. Rocky doesn't make this boot anymore but it's got 800 grain thinsulate, 100% waterproof and have worn extremely well for $140 bucks. Even with the summer heat, these boots keep my feet comfortable. I've looked at replacing them over the years but can't find anything new I like as well as these. They still keep my feet warm/dry and are great walking boots after the days ride. Don't know what I'm going to do when they finally do wear out. I know I'll be looking at another pair of Rocky boots, however.