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110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« on: March 25, 2013, 10:45:41 AM »

I can have a complete 110 kit installed including an oil cooler, Baker + 1 oil pan and Power commander for about $2,700 on my 07 Street Glide. It’s a newer kit with improved liners and valve guides, but am wondering if I'm just asking for trouble for just mediocre power and a hot right leg or if done right, a 110 (9.3:1 and 255 cams, etc) is a good powerplant. I want more power obviously but I realize this is not going to be a 100 hp, just want to be reliable and be able to ride 2 up loaded down and keep up.

If it matters, I have a new Thunderheader X series 2-1 going on it this spring too...
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2013, 10:49:39 AM »

Maybe look at the cost comparison of using 4.125" bore S&S cylinders, that'll get you 117 inches.

And there's no reason to believe that you won't have a minimum of 100 HP with a 110, as long as you don't use the 255 cams. You can build reliable power with the right mix of parts, and a good tune.
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 11:12:54 AM »

I agree. The 255= a big NO
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 11:13:30 AM »

I was told expect around 92 hp, maybe more with the TH x series but reliability, gas mileage and bang for my buck is really what I'm concerned about. 90+ hp and thousands of trouble free miles with respectable mpg for $2,700 seems like a good plan but the 110 horror stories on the internet have me concerned...
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 11:14:22 AM »

It has 255 cams too :(
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 11:24:18 AM »

What cams should I look into then for that engine?
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 11:29:36 AM »

There a a lot of different cams that you could choose from. Something like a Feuling 574 would do the trick. Here's one dyno chart from their site, they have others there for 110 combinations.

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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 11:32:56 AM »

92HP from a 110 is :(
You can have HP and reliability. There are a lot of new cams out there....I can't give you recommendations on that, but there seems to be a heep of folks hear that can.

Your tuner can help you with fuel mileage. A TTS, Direct Link or the like can make that more do-able.
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 11:40:14 AM »

The problem with a cam kit is now $2,700 complete is out the window. What's the biggest beef with the 255's that come with the 110?  
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 11:58:17 AM »

 
Here we go again.  Another thread where "simple" is going to turn into "major."  You'll all have him doing the bottom end, porting his heads, doing lifters and whatever else before he's all done when all he wants to do is spend $2700 to get a decent-running 110". LOL
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 11:58:47 AM »

Basically you said you would like to get to 100hp. the 255 will make that difficult, or not doable. I don't want to post dyno charts from individuals without their consent, but most will peak around 90hp to 93hp, and that's with an experienced tuner. Maybe someone has done it, but I haven't seen it.

For that fact, you can have your bike bored to a 103, have mild head work done, pick a nice cam for a 103, there are lots of them, and make way over 100hp, and 115 torque. And in my opinion be more reliable. You could get all that I'm sure for the same price or less. Don't know who is doing your work dealer or other, most dealers will shy away from much that's not HD parts, but I understand that too.  
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 12:02:33 PM »


Here we go again.  Another thread where "simple" is going to turn into "major."  You'll all have him doing the bottom end, porting his heads, doing lifters and whatever else before he's all done when all he wants to do is spend $2700 to get a decent-running 110". LOL

Great Post!  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 12:09:01 PM »

See if they will let you swap the cams out for the Fueling 574, andrews 54, or the new Kury cams, set the compression a bit higher than stock with the .030 head gasket and you'll have many miles ans smiles :2vrolijk_21:

Also I would not use the x-series thunder header on this built. It is too much pipe for a 110 with a cam. The standard Thunder Header, D&D Fatcat, or the Bassani would be better 2-1 choices

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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 12:10:00 PM »

I misread your post, you had said you realized it wouldn't hit 100hp. So then there is no issues, the 92hp you were given as an estimate is pretty accurate I would say.

But, it's your call, like I said you could in fact do all that without splitting the cases, just punch it to 103, mild head work, nice mid range cam, you would be good to go.
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Re: 110 complete kit $2,700 total, opinions and comments needed
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2013, 12:14:10 PM »


Here we go again.  Another thread where "simple" is going to turn into "major."  You'll all have him doing the bottom end, porting his heads, doing lifters and whatever else before he's all done when all he wants to do is spend $2700 to get a decent-running 110". LOL


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