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[CVOBreak]

Just got a call from the dealer. apparently the routing of the ABS wires to the front brake are located in such a way that the left steering stop cuts through the wires. Mine were cut and shorting out. Now I'm waiting a week for the part just when the weather was improving enough to ride. the other issues with intermittent power loss is still being investigated, As usual after the 5 minute ride the Harley tech didn't experience the symptom. then they declared nothing was wrong. I told them it never happens until about 15 minutes of riding time. they the blamed the race tuner, pipes, well, you know the rest.

they did agree to take a 30 mile ride so we will see. that is happening now so no new update yet. Maybe it was the ABS wire shorting out and messing with the ECM or O2 sensor.

[Nicky Pass]

If the ABS wire is the black one that runs with the front brake line is the one I just looked at.  Mine doesn't bind or get tight at all.  It comes out from under the tank with a little bit of slack. 

[dlaws01]

I hate to say it but if there is any way possible to repair it yourself, I'd do it before letting some H-D service moron touch it. I've yet to have a decent experience going to the H-D service department at three different dealers.  I'll say one thing for them. They do their part in hiring the handicapped.  Mentally handicapped! 

[Z06_Pilot]

If the ABS wire is the black one that runs with the front brake line is the one I just looked at.  Mine doesn't bind or get tight at all.  It comes out from under the tank with a little bit of slack. 

Yep, that's the cable that connects to the speed sensor on the front wheel.  

mine is routed ok as well....no where near pinching or hanging anywhere when turning full lock.

[Z06_Pilot]

I hate to say it but if there is any way possible to repair it yourself, I'd do it before letting some H-D service moron touch it. I've yet to have a decent experience going to the H-D service department at three different dealers.  I'll say one thing for them. They do their part in hiring the handicapped.  Mentally handicapped!  

I am extremely lucky that I have a master tech with 11 years of HD experience at my dealership.  He is meticulous, dedicated, and very finicky about how my bike is cared for when having service done.  Whenever I have an intermittent problem he will stay after it until he can reproduce it and fix it.

[dlaws01]

I am extremely lucky that I have a master tech with 11 years of HD experience at my dealership.  He is meticulous, dedicated, and very finicky about how my bike is cared for when having service done.  Whenever I have an intermittent problem he will stay after it until he can reproduce it and fix it.

That must be great. I wish I could find one around here.  I know they're out there but just not any in my area.  Count your blessings and yourself fortunate.   

[cvo1717]

I just checked my wire and its also getting pinched.I re routed it and used speed locks to tie it up and away.So much for paying for prep from dealer

[dlaws01]

I just checked my wire and its also getting pinched.I re routed it and used speed locks to tie it up and away.So much for paying for prep from dealer

   Or having them scratch your paint and say that you must have done it.

[CVOBreak]

here is what I know so far. apparently the intermittent poor performance disappeared after the shorting wires were removed. the dealer did the prep so it is kind of their fault. they didn't know if the ABS ran through the ECU data bus, I suspect it must have if eliminating the short also eliminated the performance issues. I'll know more once they replace the ABS sensor and I actually ride it myself. I did get a few data errors when trying to flash the ECU while the ABS was shorting out.

[laylonlor]

my stealer told me to stay off the forums, they don't know sh*t,

[Z06_Pilot]

That must be great. I wish I could find one around here.  I know they're out there but just not any in my area.  Count your blessings and yourself fortunate.   

yessir, I think this is the exception.  won't hijack this thread since it's not about this, but I had horror stories with other dealer's service until I hooked up with these folks, including setting my rear fender on fire once....deplorable....

[Big-Aye]

the dealer did the prep so it is kind of their fault. they didn't know if the ABS ran through the ECU data bus

The ECU receives Wheel Speed Sensor (WSS) and ABS Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) inputs from both wheels. They can look at Fig A-8 Main Wiring Harness in the 2013 FXSBSE Maintenance Manual Supplement.

Seems like something they SHOULD have known though.

[89Speedy]

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My ABS wire was pinched, thus the error code.  Dealer replaced and it was all okay.  I also received a new BCM download for 2013 softails for my stage 1 tune . . . but it also seemed to help the power loss issue with 40 miles remaining.  Haven't had a problem since.  Coincidence?

[CVOBreak]

My ABS wire was pinched, thus the error code.  Dealer replaced and it was all okay.  I also received a new BCM download for 2013 softails for my stage 1 tune . . . but it also seemed to help the power loss issue with 40 miles remaining.  Haven't had a problem since.  Coincidence?

I'm sure when I ask my dealer about the 2013 softail download they will be clueless. Mine is getting the 1K mile service tomorrow. is it a Harley service bulletin?

[89Speedy]

I'm sure when I ask my dealer about the 2013 softail download they will be clueless. Mine is getting the 1K mile service tomorrow. is it a Harley service bulletin?

Not sure if its a service bulletin . . . but he noted that the stock module was not appropriate for the SE tuner I had ordered.