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[flroadglidese]

Since I purchased my 'skunk', I've had a constant problem with stalling and a 'dead spot' when reving the engine, for example; when downshifting.... I've been told by the Service Dept that it's operator error??? I was advised to 'roll' into the throttle. I had an 2007 FLTR with a stage three kit and never experienced this problem.....any suggestions?

[grc]

Since I purchased my 'skunk', I've had a constant problem with stalling and a 'dead spot' when reving the engine, for example; when downshifting.... I've been told by the Service Dept that it's operator error??? I was advised to 'roll' into the throttle. I had an 2007 FLTR with a stage three kit and never experienced this problem.....any suggestions?

Is the bike stock or has it been tuned?  If it hasn't been properly tuned you may want to consult a qualified professional tuner (obviously not the moron from the dealership who fed you that BS).  The bike shouldn't stall, but the flat spot in the response to the throttle is something Harley built in to the electronic throttle control system.  A good tuner can fix both issues for you.  While you shouldn't have to accept such crap from Harley, and stalling is definitely a safety defect, no one I know of has had any luck trying to force Harley to fix it under warranty.  Feel free to contact H-D and raise hell, but be prepared to wind up fixing it yourself at your expense. 

Jerry

[E-Skunk]

Like grc said, "is it stock?"

I have seen more than one person put on some mods and not tune the bike.

[dmattlin]

in December I purchased a 2013 CVO RG. I am experiencing the same thing. It is very annoying!! A few weeks ago as I was riding getting miles built up (currently I have under 500 miles on the bike) I also noticed the bike bike backfired a few times (sounded like a carburetor backfire.. weird). I was close to my HD dealer so I stopped in and had a tech take it for a test ride, the Tech noticed the "lag in throttle response, it is did back fire for him and he actually killed it pulling out of the parking lot. The service writer sent a report to HD. I received a call yesterday from my dealer ship letting me know HD got back to them on this issue and stated that they have several reports of the same issue, so when my bike is in the shop for the 1,000 mile oil change and check up to test ride it and run diagnostics and send a report to HD. SO... HD recognizes this problem but has no fix for it!!
This is very disappointing. I purchased a 35k bike and now have to spend about $1,500 on aftermarket pipes, tuner, throttle pak and dyno tune to make it run correctly...  Maybe HD will at least split the cost with me to make it run correctly. WISHFUL THINKING!!

Bottom line is that this problem does exist. Harley recognizes the issue and has no fix for it..

[sadunbar]

in December I purchased a 2013 CVO RG. I am experiencing the same thing. It is very annoying!! A few weeks ago as I was riding getting miles built up (currently I have under 500 miles on the bike) I also noticed the bike bike backfired a few times (sounded like a carburetor backfire.. weird). I was close to my HD dealer so I stopped in and had a tech take it for a test ride, the Tech noticed the "lag in throttle response, it is did back fire for him and he actually killed it pulling out of the parking lot. The service writer sent a report to HD. I received a call yesterday from my dealer ship letting me know HD got back to them on this issue and stated that they have several reports of the same issue, so when my bike is in the shop for the 1,000 mile oil change and check up to test ride it and run diagnostics and send a report to HD. SO... HD recognizes this problem but has no fix for it!!
This is very disappointing. I purchased a 35k bike and now have to spend about $1,500 on aftermarket pipes, tuner, throttle pak and dyno tune to make it run correctly...  Maybe HD will at least split the cost with me to make it run correctly. WISHFUL THINKING!!

Bottom line is that this problem does exist. Harley recognizes the issue and has no fix for it..

Since this is a bit of a safety issue, why don't you insist your dealership deal with the problem now, versus waiting the 1000 mile service...  I wouldn't want to be you pulling into traffic and having the motor die, as it did for the tech who test rode your bike.

There's no reason for this issue to cost you a cent...  It's an obvious defect, already experienced by your tech and confirmed by the MOCO.  That's what your warranty is for....  Whether you add pipes, tuner, ect. after the problem is solved is a different mater.

[grc]

Since this is a bit of a safety issue, why don't you insist your dealership deal with the problem now, versus waiting the 1000 mile service...  I wouldn't want to be you pulling into traffic and having the motor die, as it did for the tech who test rode your bike.

There's no reason for this issue to cost you a cent...  It's an obvious defect, already experienced by your tech and confirmed by the MOCO.  That's what your warranty is for....  Whether you add pipes, tuner, ect. after the problem is solved is a different mater.

Yup, what he said.

Once again I'll remind folks that stalling is a definite safety related defect, and in the automotive industry it has resulted in many official safety recalls over the years.  If you are the type who is willing to fight, by all means contact H-D corporate and file an official complaint, and also file a complaint with the NHTSA.  And this stuff has been going on for a lot of years, so don't fall for the BS from Harley that they've had a few complaints recently but don't know what the root cause is.  If they don't know what the cause is by now, they are all incompetent fools that definitely don't deserve your business.

My previous advice about fixing it yourself is for those who don't want to fight for what's right and don't mind paying the "Harley tax" to make the bike run right.  Harley and it's dealers have been collecting that "tax" for decades, making customers buy parts and tuners to "fix" the problem Harley created. 

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

Jerry