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[donald.e]

I know this topic has been pretty well covered on this site, however here in UK the Dealers are pretty much oblivious to these issues.
Currently My 2007 Road King is dead and a 07 Engine is no longer available from HD which leaves me with a very expensive rebuild (if Possible) or fitting a S&S.
What I would like to do is compile a list of Engine Faults (excluding the Rear Cylinder Oil Leaks) and your experience and outcome was.
This information will be passed to Harley Davidson UK, with a letter of displeasure, on the total failure of the Prestigious Hand Built Motorcycle, after only 27k and being dealer serviced since new. 

[screaminCVO]

My 08 Dyna needed a new compensator, 3 lifters needed changing and inner primary bearing. That was around 10,000 mi.

[Retired rider]

My 2008 ultra classic se 110 just got out of the shop at 22,000 mile for front rod bearing failure, and they found the rear exhaust cam and tappet was failing. It was under ESP warrenty thank God. They replaced the crank-flywheel assembly that includes front and rear rods and bearings, both cam shafts bearings and tappets. Also they replaced the oil pump assembly and one of the cam chain tentioners. They honed the cylinders and install new piston rings. The 2007 and early 2008 SE 110s seem to be having the most problems.

[donald.e]

Unfortunately we don't have the ESP Warranty offered here, hence the reason for this post, HD-UK are not interested and are not admitting there are problems, so if you guys keep posting that would be appreciated.

[110tHunDer]

 
You would probably have more luck using the search feature of the site since you are talking about experiences with a 6 year-old bike.  As you yourself point out, the issues are pretty well-documented here already.  Getting all of the members here who had problems to re-post their experiences in one thread is an exercise in futility.  Best wishes in getting resolution from internet postings.

[JKM]

In addition to the recall/service campaigns I would add
- Compensator (need upgrade to latest SE version)
- Lifters (many problems around 20K miles.  Replace with S&S, or other high quality aftermarket)
- Cam bearings.  Cheap OEM version have been know to fail and cause bigger problems.  Replace with Torington or other high quality aftermarket
- Inner primary bearing if you're into the primary
- If doing upgrades, consider the stronger clutch spring (only about $25)

[ultrafxr]

Donald, I do not understand your statement that an '07 engine is no longer available.  I just replaced the one in my '07 SE Ultra last November.  It had serious internal damage.  I have ESP coverage and they authorized a factory reman which in fact was a brand new motor.  I know you do not have ESP but if the factory remanufacturing option is available to you I would go that route.  As far as I know the current 110 motor will fit your '07 bike and it carries a one year warranty.

[prodrag1320]

as long as your cases are OK,build it up to 124"

[donald.e]

Very interested on the fact you had a new engine last November Ultrafxr, as this is not the information I'm being fed here!!!!!!!!
I do agree with other upgrade and go after market, with stronger more capable components, and will be the route chosen, I'm just tired of the lack of interest over hear from HD-UK, when you guys are well up to speed and are given an avenue to follow.
Thanks for your reply, roll out the S&S 

[grc]

Donald, I do not understand your statement that an '07 engine is no longer available.  I just replaced the one in my '07 SE Ultra last November.  It had serious internal damage.  I have ESP coverage and they authorized a factory reman which in fact was a brand new motor.  I know you do not have ESP but if the factory remanufacturing option is available to you I would go that route.  As far as I know the current 110 motor will fit your '07 bike and it carries a one year warranty.

I think he's talking about the fact that there is no 2007 version in the catalog (crate engine).  If you look in the SE catalog you'll see a 110 crate engine for sale, '08 and up, but nothing listed for 2007.  There were some changes made to things like mounts and stabilizer bracket location for '08.   

Anyhow, the remanufacturing process should still be available as you mentioned.  The shipping might be a major stumbling block however.

Jerry

[donald.e]

You hit the nail on the head Jerry.

What you call a crate Engine is not available and a rebuild quoted by the dealer would be in the region of £10k yes
UK pound 

Whether or not this was a back to a factory option or a in house, I don't know, but all I know I can have this done with more capable parts than the standard components, for a good bit less, and that includes more inches geared cams and bigger lifters, plus a more capable oil pump.

We will see what transpires.

[mustangcav]

Donald, I'm sure you've seen what's been written in the archives already, but I would say that listing the issues w/ your engine might be helpful, just to get some of the chaps thinking again. Besides, new people are getting on this site every day and may have a different POV on it. I don't know what a "dead engine" means in your case, or how a series of calamitous faults could manifest themselves all at once. As to the hideous expense for imported motorcycles and parts, having lived in Europe for awhile and visited England on several occasions, I ruefully joked that getting anything Harley meant taking the US cost in dollars, making that euros and multiplying by 2...ie a $20,000 bagger would cost 20,000 x 2 euros or 40,000 euros with 19%mwst/tax. Same with the parts! I know the formula works in the UK as well, except in pounds, so it's worse. Harleys are pretty much boutique bikes over there so factory labo(u)r costs are like getting a Bentley worked on in LA at $400 an hour. You'd know better than us as to why the lads at HD/UK are being so mingy about everything though.

[trippy]

Hi Donald,

Your quite right about the fact that HD UK don`t want to know about these very famous issues with the 110 motor, have made a few complaints to them over the last few years with no luck at all, but you have to remember that they take there instructions from the U.S. and over there everybody sues everybody all the time so they will ignore you until you start legal action against them.

Anyway common and known faults with the 110 engines and running gear, here goes-

As you said cylinder base oil seals, early compression releases, cylinder head valve guides (they can overheat and shift position), clearance issues with valve springs and lower rocker box, out of round/tapered cylinder bores, Cylinder head gaskets and last but not least out of spec flywheels (when HD started getting a lot of complaints about this all they did was increase the tolerances they said was OK).

Oh by the way if you do for the SE compensator (not sure which is the latest version ) they run dry and chew themselves to pieces, (look up the Richard-Ron compensator oiler upgrade )  that's good reading.

On the subject of rebuilds you might want to go to Dan Vance racing website for all the bits and machine work to upgrade to 124cu,will be doing mine this winter, I am sending him my crankcases and crank for crank trueing and wielding and Timken bearing in the crankcases and have them bored to take his larger cylinders and pistons, oh and my throttle body to bore out to 54mm. Cant find anyone over here that can do the whole lot.

Good luck with HD UK.
 

[RayG]

Please don't take this the wrong way but if you don't have a warranty or ESP that means you are paying for the whole project correct?  If that is the case why on earth would you want to put another stock 110?  To many other choices for better running power plants like the S&S 124 which fits your bike.  Runs cooler, stronger and should last 2 to 3 times longer.  If you don't want the 124 you could have a 110 built from the ground up using prooven components.  Maybe it's just me but having just faced the same issue their was no way I was going to pay for another short lived 110 motor. 

Good luck on your choice.

[skreminegul07]

Please don't take this the wrong way but if you don't have a warranty or ESP that means you are paying for the whole project correct?  If that is the case why on earth would you want to put another stock 110?  To many other choices for better running power plants like the S&S 124 which fits your bike.  Runs cooler, stronger and should last 2 to 3 times longer.  If you don't want the 124 you could have a 110 built from the ground up using prooven components.  Maybe it's just me but having just faced the same issue their was no way I was going to pay for another short lived 110 motor. 

Good luck on your choice.

Ray, you still sound fiesty.