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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« on: October 06, 2006, 10:25:45 PM »

bearammus welcome to the site.  Any time the bike shuts off unexpectantly is bad very bad, let us know what they find.  They had some kind of fuse or maxi fuse issue in 03 I think (gettin old) where the bike would shut down without warning.
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2006, 10:49:25 PM »

I just testified in a wrongful death suit against HD in West Virginia. This same issue is what was believed by the plantiff to have caused the death of a rider (her husband). The attorneys for the plantiff presented evidence that indicated that Harley knew of this problem and concealed it since 1998 from the public and NHTSA. Unfortunately the plantiff lost the case as the jury wasn't convinced that it was the sole reason for the riders death. The reason I testified is that the same thing happened to me on my 2000 FLHTC. It's called "quit while riding". I was lucky in that the 1st time it happened to me was in daylight on a straight road as I was slowing to make a turn. I didn't think much of it since I was able to maintain control and get off the road. I just switched the ignition off , waited 10 seconds and turned it back on and it fired right up. The 2nd time it happened to me was at night. Again I was lucky and was able to keep control of the bike and get it off the road safely. Fortunately there were streetlights and I could see where I was going to get it off the road. Had I been going faster, on  an unlit interstate with a truck next to me, it could have been a very different story for my wife and I. The problem was with the 40 AMP main circuit breaker. There was a recall by HD but it didn't include my model/year. I went out and got the 50 AMP circuit breaker and installed it myself and that cured the issue for me. Sold the bike 2 months later and all was working well. Got a call from the guy that bought it 2 months ago and he told me he was having the same problem again. I told him to stop riding it until he replaced the fuse.
Your issue sounds similar but maybe a little more involved. My advice is DO NOT RIDE IT AGAIN UNTIL THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED! You could pay a very dear price for riding a bike with this kind of issue and HD will keep on selling the bikes. I wish you the best of luck resolving your problem and many years of safe riding.  ;)
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2006, 11:44:24 PM »

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I just testified in a wrongful death suit against HD in West Virginia. This same issue is what was believed by the plantiff to have caused the death of a rider (her husband). The attorneys for the plantiff presented evidence that indicated that Harley knew of this problem and concealed it since 1998 from the public and NHTSA. Unfortunately the plantiff lost the case as the jury wasn't convinced that it was the sole reason for the riders death.

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The plaintiff's second witness, Carlos Jarvis Jr., testified that in May 2002, he wrecked a 2002 Ultra Classic while exiting a curve in Boone County. Jarvis, a retired coal miner, said he had ridden several different types of motorcycles since learning to ride at the age of 15 and had never wrecked until that time.
Jarvis testified that when he bought the Ultra Classic no one told him it might
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2006, 07:35:07 AM »

Another fine example of WHY nobody wants to make anything in the USA!
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2006, 09:43:31 AM »

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From the local newspapers:


and the next day:


The key to all this confusion thus endith here:

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Thanks for the input. I never did read the papers while I was there. Too much time in court. Lots of beautiful countryside to see there as well. Looks like a great place to ride a scoot.... outrageous mountain curves. I now know why they call 'em the smokies. Ride safe! ;)
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2006, 09:44:31 AM »

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[highlight]Another fine example of WHY nobody wants to make anything in the USA! [/highlight]


I'm confused.. what did you mean by that?  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2006, 10:10:12 AM »

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I'm confused.. what did you mean by that?
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2006, 10:36:32 AM »

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[highlight]Sue everyone for everything because NOTHING is my fault[/highlight] -Sorry about the confusion!

I agree that people need to accept personal responsibility for what they bring on themselves that are a result of their actions. Additionally, frivilous lawsuits jam up the courts and are often ill disguised attempts at getting money or revenge on others but this is not always the case. If you've ever been wronged, ripped off or hurt by someone or some entity where the damage occurred through no fault of your own (truly) you would want a means to resolve this injury. Our legal system provdes a means to do this. The alternative is to take matters into your own hands (tempting as it may be) and the result is anarchy. Here's to hoping neither of us has to ever sue anyone for anything!  [smiley=drink.gif]
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2006, 11:38:45 AM »

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Sue everyone for everything because NOTHING is my fault -Sorry about the confusion!

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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2006, 05:27:20 PM »

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On the way home from Reno on my 07 FLHTCUSE2 the engine turned off while cruising at 75 mph.
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2006, 08:30:43 PM »

As has been pointed out - this is a very serious problem. When you really think about it, depending on where you are, what you are doing, time of day, etc. this can be a mere inconvenience or a disaster. How many of those single vehicle motorcycle crashes you have read about in newspaper articles might have ben caused by a sudden and unexpected loss of power? "Failed to negotiate a curve". Yeah, you could fail to negotiate a curve if you suddenly lost power on a moonless night on an unlit roadway. And, the circuit breaker may reset on a wrecked bike (maybe?) and an investigation may never uncover the defect. Anytime you are fortunate enough to survive a sudden loss of electrical power the next stop should be your dealer or trusted mechanic. I would seriously consider trailering the bike directly to the dealer. Anybody else have this experience? We need to learn more about it.
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2006, 10:22:59 PM »

The circuit breaker that was recalled is no longer used, H-D changed from circuit breakers to regular fuses several years ago.
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2006, 11:35:05 PM »

My SE Ultra was bought back by the dealer for a blown fuse at 400 miles...this is the 15 amp fuse prior to the ECM.  After extensive fix, I purchased from the dealer.....mistake...

First the turn signal had issues...turned out to be a bad switch....then this weekend while going to Pigeon forge, youd guess it....the fuses went again...

It primarily went out at traffic lights.....but 8 fuses in 2 days....its going back....forever...They are getting a blue one shortly and I might look at this....
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2006, 10:33:25 AM »

Good advice to not ride until the bike is fixed.
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Re: Electrical Engine Problems
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2006, 11:16:29 PM »

Well - they did buy it back today and I pick up the blue tomorrow....I saw it for the first time today and it looks even better IMO than the black....

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